I don't think the Xbox One's style DRM is something that someone can supplant at a local level. The entire system relies on server authentications and database look ups. Things being tied to various generated keys and things like that produce an environment that you can just ... replicate on a chip and toss in there.
The only way it could be removed is faux servers. I'm sure Microsoft will have their out for them, though. Unlike Valve, Microsoft is the kind of company to take immediate legal action against such things. Even if they have no legal ground.
If someone can do it with a chip or software modification ... that's cool, but I think that'll be unlikely.
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Exactly. Boogie says this about the Xbox One, when Boogie gets serious, you know something serious is going down.Cronozilla wrote:I don't think the Xbox One's style DRM is something that someone can supplant at a local level. The entire system relies on server authentications and database look ups. Things being tied to various generated keys and things like that produce an environment that you can just ... replicate on a chip and toss in there.
The only way it could be removed is faux servers. I'm sure Microsoft will have their out for them, though. Unlike Valve, Microsoft is the kind of company to take immediate legal action against such things. Even if they have no legal ground.
If someone can do it with a chip or software modification ... that's cool, but I think that'll be unlikely.
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All I can do is laugh at this point....it's video games not religion.
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Re: I must be an addict
lost_within wrote:All I can do is laugh at this point....it's video games not religion.
I have to admit, I was impressed with Boogie's video, made valid points without coming off as a total fanboy. Despite what he said, I'm still comfortable buying the product and look forward to playing the games they announced so far.
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Hey man....you cant enjoy games on the new xbox!!!! No matter how good they are!!! Its the forbidden fruit!!! You wouldnt want "fellow gamers" to stone you would you?!?!?!?!

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This isn't about just video games. This is about consumer rights, this is about ownership, and this about preservation for history. The Xbox One is just the tip of an iceberg made of broken "intellectual property" laws, poor defense of consumer rights, and lack of regard for preservation. The problematic philosophies behind the Xbox one have existed in some form for many decades and now touch countless areas: movies, games, digital books, music, cellphones, game consoles, file formats, communication protocols etc.
Year after year, decade after decade, "intellectual property" laws expand. Also, EULAs, TOSs, and the like only become more abusive, and more enforced through DRM. And all the while people say, "well I can break the current regulations easily, and besides it's just books, it's just music, it's just movies, it's just video games, it's just software, it's just the protocols and tools we use to communicate in our daily lives, it's just..." and then "important" things begin to change, and it's too late because not enough people stood for openness, freedom, and privacy when they had the chance.
It's something of a pet peeve but... it really is important! I could go on, but I've probably rambled too much already.

And for those wondering, yes, someone actually made an open, 3D printed, mock violin about that big inspired by that comic.
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Don't add to my problems by pretending my past views are still held in the present. I do not have any patience for that. Feel free to ask me what I think now.
Don't add to my problems by pretending my past views are still held in the present. I do not have any patience for that. Feel free to ask me what I think now.
Re: I must be an addict
As a Linux user and an Open-Source advocate, I agree with everything said above.
At what point do we stop owning the things we buy, and begin to start paying to "borrow" them from these corporations? When we stop caring about stuff like this and give them our money anyway, we're saying that we're okay with this. Microsoft doesn't want to sell us products, they want to sell us licenses. We're buying the right to use a product and not the product it's self. This is why some of us are being so vocal about it and trying to get others to change their minds.
I don't necessarily agree with everything being said about the Xbox One, but it definitely deserves every bit of bad publicity that it's getting. I also do not see them changing their minds or even dropping out of the race. Microsoft is too proud to do anything of the sort. Instead, they will continue to "assimilate" as many people as possible with their CODs and HALOs. I for one will not be purchasing the Xbox One, and I implore others to rethink their decision. If they ultimately do not care, or want to support it anyway, then that's their decision. I have no right to call anybody "stupid" for having an opinion other than my own.
(Also, XKCD rocks...)
At what point do we stop owning the things we buy, and begin to start paying to "borrow" them from these corporations? When we stop caring about stuff like this and give them our money anyway, we're saying that we're okay with this. Microsoft doesn't want to sell us products, they want to sell us licenses. We're buying the right to use a product and not the product it's self. This is why some of us are being so vocal about it and trying to get others to change their minds.
I don't necessarily agree with everything being said about the Xbox One, but it definitely deserves every bit of bad publicity that it's getting. I also do not see them changing their minds or even dropping out of the race. Microsoft is too proud to do anything of the sort. Instead, they will continue to "assimilate" as many people as possible with their CODs and HALOs. I for one will not be purchasing the Xbox One, and I implore others to rethink their decision. If they ultimately do not care, or want to support it anyway, then that's their decision. I have no right to call anybody "stupid" for having an opinion other than my own.
(Also, XKCD rocks...)
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I agree with everything you said, but...jinx wrote:"assimilate" as many people as possible with their CODs and HALOs.
You know Halo isn't an acronym right?
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Re: I must be an addict
Well then, I would suggest you start by blaming Disney and the RIAA and not buying their producs. While many companies and organizations favor expanding copyright laws, Disney and the RIAA are the biggest names behidn the movement and shell out the most money to get Congress to back further expansions on how long a product can be controlled. And I believe we'll hear about further expansions to those laws soon, as Disney's copyrights should be expiring in a few years (this battle occurs in Congress whenever the Mickey Mouse IP nears its ownership expiration).DinnerX wrote:Year after year, decade after decade, "intellectual property" laws expand. Also, EULAs, TOSs, and the like only become more abusive, and more enforced through DRM. And all the while people say, "well I can break the current regulations easily, and besides it's just books, it's just music, it's just movies, it's just video games, it's just software, it's just the protocols and tools we use to communicate in our daily lives, it's just..." and then "important" things begin to change, and it's too late because not enough people stood for openness, freedom, and privacy when they had the chance.
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Re: I must be an addict
I'm too young to have a job so it's not like I can get this stuff. That's part of the reason I retrogame; it's because stuff is so cheap.
I think caring about modern gaming is your problem.
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I think caring about modern gaming is your problem.
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