Nintendo vs Lets Play

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Nintendo vs Lets Play

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I'm surprised no one has made a topic about this on here.
Nintendo Flexing Copyright Clout on YouTube Let’s Play Channels



Nintendo is reportedly issuing “content ID match” claims on Let’s Play videos featuring their game franchises, according to prolific YouTuber Zack Scott, who is currently playing Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon.

Scott noted that Nintendo made content ID matches against a number of his videos, thus preventing him from monetizing those videos on YouTube.

In a Facebook post, Scott wrote the following message as an open letter to Nintendo:

I just want to express my feelings on the matter of Nintendo claiming not just my YouTube videos, but from several LPers as well.

I’m a Nintendo fan. I waited in the cold overnight to get a Wii. I’m a 3DS ambassador. I got a Wii U at midnight when I already had one in the mail. I’ve been a Nintendo fan since the NES, and I’ve owned all of their systems.

With that said, I think filing claims against LPers is backwards. Video games aren’t like movies or TV. Each play-through is a unique audiovisual experience. When I see a film that someone else is also watching, I don’t need to see it again. When I see a game that someone else is playing, I want to play that game for myself! Sure, there may be some people who watch games rather than play them, but are those people even gamers?

My viewers watch my gameplay videos for three main reasons:
1. To hear my commentary/review.
2. To learn about the game and how to play certain parts.
3. To see how I handle and react to certain parts of the game.

Since I started my gaming channel, I’ve played a lot of games. I love Nintendo, so I’ve included their games in my line-up. But until their claims are straightened out, I won’t be playing their games. I won’t because it jeopardizes my channel’s copyright standing and the livelihood of all LPers.

So, What the Hell are Content ID Matches, Anyway?
Note that content ID matches are different from ‘copyright strikes,’ which YouTube issues a channel after processing a verified request for the full removal of a video by the copyright owner. If a channel receives “three strikes,” YouTube suspends the channel and deletes all of its videos.

Content ID matches are less severe. When a publisher issues a content ID match against a video, it allows them to monetize that video with in-video ads, block it in certain countries, or even block it from playing worldwide. If a video is blocked worldwide as a result of a content ID match, the associated channel can lose its “good standing,” and as as result lose access to certain YouTube features.

Based on Nintendo’s statement to Game Front (below), it would appear they are not opting to block videos from playing outright, but rather monetize videos over a certain length with their own ads.

Widespread Complaints

Scott is not alone in his complaints, which have since been echoed by a number of other YouTubers, as well as Thomas Was Alone creator Mike Bithell.

Nintendo issued Game Front the following statement:

As part of our on-going push to ensure Nintendo content is shared across social media channels in an appropriate and safe way, we became a YouTube partner and as such in February 2013 we registered our copyright content in the YouTube database. For most fan videos this will not result in any changes, however, for those videos featuring Nintendo-owned content, such as images or audio of a certain length, adverts will now appear at the beginning, next to or at the end of the clips. We continually want our fans to enjoy sharing Nintendo content on YouTube, and that is why, unlike other entertainment companies, we have chosen not to block people using our intellectual property.
http://www.gamefront.com/nintendo-flexi ... -channels/

A lot of people I've seen talk about this issue have bought up this video.


Personally I think the whole thing is a bit of a grey area, it is very easy to make the argument that many of these lets play channels broke out because of the games they played in the first place, yes they do eventually win viewers through their content and not because of the stuff they play but still.
Youtube is a bit of a lottery really, make it big and you'll never have to pay for video games again, in other words if you do a lets play and you become big, you get your games for free, that right there is living a dream.

Anyway I agree that Nintendo isn't doing what is best for everyone but at the end of the day Nintendo have a legal right to claim on their games, it sucks but that's just the way it is until someone comes along and convinces the legal system otherwise.
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I think Nintendo did nothing wrong here.

A better question is if I think the people doing these let's plays deserve to be making money off what they do in the first place .

If you want to comment games, do it professionally. Many youtube reviewers put real effort in their videos.

If all you are going to do is play the game and talk over it, then do it for fun, for the community, for yourself. If you are doing it to make money, you are going against the spirit of hardcore gaming, which imo is that we just love playing and discussing about the games we adore. If I had a let's play series, I would do it for people who love the game that I'm playing, or I would do it to get my opinion about said game to get heard.

I wouldn't expect any profit from it.

Since nintendo isn't banning these videos, but is only asking for the profits from the advertisements I think they are in the right.
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The less 'lets play' videos the better. :D
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Let's Play and Long Plays are not critical reviews, so they aren't protected by fair use. Nintendo is technically within their rights to either take them down or assert copyright ownership and attach ads. That said, I think it's bad policy. It's sort of understood that letting folks work with your game footage acts as promotion, and that going to war with it causes fans to look at you through a negative lens.

So, is Nintendo in the right? Depends on what right is. Within their legal rights, yes. But I think it will ultimately bite them in the rear end.
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Ubisoft and EA both have been doing this as well. It isn't that big of a deal. If you think you are going to make money off of your Let's Plays, then the least that you can do is have the companies you are making money off of to have a bit of advertising in as well.

I don't make money off of my Let's Plays for that reason alone, even though I could be monetizing them.
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marurun wrote:But I think it will ultimately bite them in the rear end.
I really really really really really really really doubt this. Gamers haven't gotten REALLY angry and REALLY boycotted companies and games for REAL shady practices / dickish moves. This ONLY affects the people who wanted to make money off their let's plays.

And let's be honest, those sound like some of the laziest people in the world. Again I'm not talking about game reviewers who put effort into their videos and then hope they can make some money off their effort.
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ZeroAX wrote:
marurun wrote:But I think it will ultimately bite them in the rear end.
I really really really really really really really doubt this. Gamers haven't gotten REALLY angry and REALLY boycotted companies and games for REAL shady practices / dickish moves. This ONLY affects the people who wanted to make money off their let's plays.
I remember when Modern Warfare 2 on the PC got boycotted and sold no copies.

Oh wait, the opposite happened.
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ZeroAX wrote:
marurun wrote:But I think it will ultimately bite them in the rear end.
I really really really really really really really doubt this. Gamers haven't gotten REALLY angry and REALLY boycotted companies and games for REAL shady practices / dickish moves. This ONLY affects the people who wanted to make money off their let's plays.
I dunno, I really dislike YouTube's advertisements. Fortunately, AdBlock strips them out, regardless of the source or payee.

As for biting Nintendo in the ass, I'm not talking about anything so dramatic as boycotts. I'm simply noting that this policy alienates a number of very prominent fans and will have some backlash against their image. Any publicity is good publicity doesn't apply on the internet. Look at the Streisand Effect.
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MrPopo wrote: I remember when Modern Warfare 2 on the PC got boycotted and sold no copies.

Oh wait, the opposite happened.
You're talking to the only person who seems to have upheld both the L4D2 and the MW2 boycott :lol:
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ZeroAX wrote:
MrPopo wrote: I remember when Modern Warfare 2 on the PC got boycotted and sold no copies.

Oh wait, the opposite happened.
You're talking to the only person who seems to have upheld both the L4D2 and the MW2 boycott :lol:
Why was there a boycott of L4D2?
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