Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?

[Luke]

The Arkham series is terribly overrated. They are beautiful games, but tiresome, and the fighting stages are a joke. Doesn't take much brainpower to keep pressing one button over and over.

If you're essentially button-mashing to play an Arkham game, you're doing it wrong.

Y = Counter
X = Attack

That's all you need to know. Everything else like collecting Riddler trophies is dicking around.

And if I can beat the game with such ease, I'm doing it right.

[Stark]

The Arkham series is terribly overrated. They are beautiful games, but tiresome, and the fighting stages are a joke. Doesn't take much brainpower to keep pressing one button over and over.

If you're essentially button-mashing to play an Arkham game, you're doing it wrong.

Y = Counter
X = Attack

That's all you need to know. Everything else like collecting Riddler trophies is dicking around.

And if I can beat the game with such ease, I'm doing it right.

You may be able to beat the game, but the way you're doing it doesn't sound fun, I guess we can agree on that. Why aren't you using gadgets and batarangs and whatnot, that's what makes the combat interesting.

[RyaNtheSlayA]

^ Yeah, if you just beat up everything, the game becomes a bit stale. The fun is in the gadgets.

[Ack]

I think Luke's point is that you don't have to for most fights. Sure, they can mix things up, but really most fights can be won by attacking with your fists and countering when necessary.

[Krejlooc]

The Arkham series is terribly overrated. They are beautiful games, but tiresome, and the fighting stages are a joke. Doesn't take much brainpower to keep pressing one button over and over.

If you're essentially button-mashing to play an Arkham game, you're doing it wrong.

Y = Counter
X = Attack

That's all you need to know. Everything else like collecting Riddler trophies is dicking around.

And if I can beat the game with such ease, I'm doing it right.

I wish I could find the exact quote, but I can't even remember which game it was talking about (Perhaps Marrowind?) but there was a quote from a developer where he was asked about how players could break his game by jumping in place for hours on end to artificially level up some attribute that made the game a snap. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) "If they're going to play the game wrong by doing, in the end, all their doing is at the detriment of their own experience, so good for them?"

Or, to put it in other terms - you can beat Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Saturn by crouching and using low kick on medium difficulty through out the entire game due to a bug in the opponent AI. Nobody would argue that this easier method to victory is more fun than playing the game properly, even if you are likely to lose more by not abusing the glitch.

If you want to string together a large combo - and there is enjoyment in doing so IMO - you'll need to do more than just rely on hard attacks and counters. Whether or not you find enjoyment in exploring the fighting system is up to you, but there is more depth to it than you're giving it credit for.

[fastbilly1]

I wish I could find the exact quote, but I can't even remember which game it was talking about (Perhaps Marrowind?) but there was a quote from a developer where he was asked about how players could break his game by jumping in place for hours on end to artificially level up some attribute that made the game a snap. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) "If they're going to play the game wrong by doing, in the end, all their doing is at the detriment of their own experience, so good for them?"

It was Oblivion. Though you could do the same in Morrowind in theory (though maxed out Acrobatics in Morrowind would just let you jump over things better - which is why I maxed it out).

[Luke]

I think Luke's point is that you don't have to for most fights.

Kind of. My main point is that the game is pretty mindless and super repetitive.

Not saying the series isn't great, just saying the game and its fighting system are overrated.

Plus, (not directed at Ack) don't tell me how I'm playing a video game "wrong". That's as dumb as telling someone "You don't like escargot? You must be eating it wrong".

[Ack]

I wish I could find the exact quote, but I can't even remember which game it was talking about (Perhaps Marrowind?) but there was a quote from a developer where he was asked about how players could break his game by jumping in place for hours on end to artificially level up some attribute that made the game a snap. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) "If they're going to play the game wrong by doing, in the end, all their doing is at the detriment of their own experience, so good for them?"

It was Oblivion. Though you could do the same in Morrowind in theory (though maxed out Acrobatics in Morrowind would just let you jump over things better - which is why I maxed it out).

Jumping from rooftop to rooftop in Balmora while singing the Spider-Man themesong is still a favorite activity of mine in that game.

That said, I find part of the fun to be in discovering those little glitches and problems. It adds a new sense of discovery for me. And I'm not playing the game "wrong." I might joke that someone plays games wrong, but is there really a wrong play to play a game? At its core, I'm manipulating controls to cause a desired outcome on the screen. If I happen to break a few things because I'm doing something inherently crazy...well, I enjoyed myself.

[fastbilly1]

I think Luke's point is that you don't have to for most fights.

Kind of. My main point is that the game is pretty mindless and super repetitive.

Not saying the series isn't great, just saying the game and its fighting system are overrated.

Plus, don't tell me how I'm playing a video game "wrong". That's as dumb as telling someone "You don't like escargot? You must be eating it wrong".

But the same could be said about almost any beatemup.

[Violent By Design]

But the same could be said about almost any beatemup.

The same could be said of all religions