Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?

[Retronomy]

Did you just seriously say TF2 is easier to pick up than Goldeneye?
Wow, I guess this really is an Unpopular Opinions thread.

TF2 has more depth than Goldeneye if that's what you're saying, but if you're asking me what is more frustrating to play?

First off, how on earth can TF2 be labeled as frustrating is beyond me. As someone who has played the series since it was on Quake, TF2 was designed to be a casual game (btw, that is something Goldeneye wasn't design for even though it caught on fire). TF2 is designed to be easily accessible.

If someone plays Goldeneye for the first time with people who have played Goldeneye, they will die a lot, and kill no one. Not sure how anyone can deny this. That seems like a scenario that could breed frustration.

In TF2? Not really.

Pyro - Requires little execution or explanation
Medic - Requires little execution or explanation
Heavy - Requires little execution or explanation
Snipper - Requires good execution, but the basic premise of what he does and how he works is simple.

You point and click, that's how you use them - and it is like that even on an intermediate level of TF2 - much less a random pub. Seems really overwhelming.


Second TF2 is obviously a team experience, meaning that that individual can be carried.

Three, TF2 maps are larger, which can help give new players a breather and time to actually think about what they are looking at.

The aesthetics and physics alone make TF2 a more enjoyable experience for people who do not play video games. It's a light hearted game, where there feels like there is no consequence to your actions. You can get killed in TF2 a lot, and not feel bad.


I play TF2 with a random girl who has never played video games before, and she loves the game. I don't understand how anyone can say TF2 is a hard game to pick up vs the FPS that came out in the late 90s. I mean TFC is around Goldeneye's era, and is someone here really going to say that TFC is accessible while TF2 is not? They're almost polar opposites.


FPS' made today are more "pick up and play" than ones that came out in the late 90s and early 2000s, by a long shot.

I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't get much simpler than goldeneye.
In general, aiming is pretty much only horizontal. You run and shoot. Run and shoot. That's it. Your arguement almost entirely relies on the fact that "TF2" is a team experience and is thus more accessible. But that just isn't true. And that arguement still doesn't explain why Goldeneye isn't good. Dated? Yes, obviously. Bad? Not at all.
Goldeneye is pick up and play from the very start. There aren't any classes, complicated weaponry or mechanics. It's just choose a character, shoot people. Anyone can pick up Goldeneye in a minute and learn what to do, except perhaps you.

I think you're just buttmad because you suck at Goldeneye.

[MrEco]

One reason I think the Halo series is so poor is because it feels like it was meticulously designed by a focus group to appeal to the widest audience possible. It has a bit of sci-fi for the "nerds", lots of killin' for the "bros", etc... It's a game for everybody and nobody and it completely fails at being interesting or compelling in any way.

Because nerd's don't like killing of course...

[Valkyrie-Favor]

I'm pretty sure GoldenEye is a brogame too. And I'm fine with that.

[Violent By Design]

I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't get much simpler than goldeneye.
In general, aiming is pretty much only horizontal. You run and shoot. Run and shoot. That's it.

That's what you do in most shooters, believe it or not.

Your arguement almost entirely relies on the fact that "TF2" is a team experience and is thus more accessible. But that just isn't true.

Care to explain why that is?

And that arguement still doesn't explain why Goldeneye isn't good.

If you're being serious, I literally did explain why I think Goldeneye is not a good game. Can't do much if you chose to ignore it.

In regards to Goldeneye's accessibility, it was a rebuttal to Goldeneye being considered a good game due to it being easy to pick up to play, then there was the comment that more games should be like that now. Hence, my response was games are easier to pick up and play now than they were before.

Dated? Yes, obviously. Bad? Not at all.

I already explained why I think it was bad. By what merits is it even good? The controls are terrible and so are the physics. I don't get how that game is more satisfying than the 100s of other FPS out there that does what it does but better. It's an old game that was made on a console with one analog stick, it isn't mind blowing that it isn't good anymore.

Is Goldeneye even better than Perfect Dark?

Goldeneye is pick up and play from the very start. There aren't any classes, complicated weaponry or mechanics. It's just choose a character, shoot people. Anyone can pick up Goldeneye in a minute and learn what to do, except perhaps you.

You're right, TF2 takes months of training - it is basically the Dota of FPS.

I'm sorry, but I've never heard of someone playing an FPS, and not know the basics of "you have to shoot someone".

In TF2, you pick Medic, you shoot a healing beam. Goldeneye is primarily horizontal aiming? You don't even need to aim with a Medigun. Sounds real difficult. I mean some of the things you're saying applies to TF2. Do you actually have to aim with a flamethrower? You just "run and shoot".

I think you're just buttmad because you suck at Goldeneye.

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I was actually very good in Goldeneye, I used to play it competitively. The Half Life Goldeneye mod was clutch too.

[Retronomy]

You, me. Goldeneye. Let's settle this.

[Violent By Design]

I'm pretty sure GoldenEye is a brogame too. And I'm fine with that.

shh, don't tell anyone that it gets a pass since it's on the n64. if anything goldeneye was the first "frat game" of the 3D era.

[Violent By Design]

Also, I hate you guys.

[Retronomy]

Also, I hate you guys.

Love you too <3

[Krejlooc]

I always laugh at "brogaming" comments. Look at all the obscure, hyper-nerd shit I spewed throughout the course of this topic.

...would you ever believe I was the president of my faternity in college? And no, we weren't a geeky frat.

EDIT: And I do believe I may have just provided the least popular opinion of all

[Violent By Design]

I always laugh at "brogaming" comments. Look at all the obscure, hyper-nerd shit I spewed throughout the course of this topic.

...would you ever believe I was the president of my faternity in college? And no, we weren't a geeky frat.

EDIT: And I do believe I may have just provided the least popular opinion of all

Nerds and Bros can never get along.