Resident Evil 1 was also on Saturn. Saturn also has uh... D and Enemy Zero?Menegrothx wrote: Survival Horror:
Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1&3 (got RE2 1½ years before the N64)
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D and Enemy Zero are more like adventure games than Survival Horror. Especially D. Enemy Zero is... way different, but it feels more like an adventure game to me.AppleQueso wrote:Resident Evil 1 was also on Saturn. Saturn also has uh... D and Enemy Zero?Menegrothx wrote: Survival Horror:
Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1&3 (got RE2 1½ years before the N64)
But the Saturn also has Deep Fear.
EDIT: but replying to his list, the following games are on the saturn as well:
Battle Area Toshinden
Silhouette mirage
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Wipeout
Personally, I don't think either the N64 or the Playstation comes close to the Saturn when it comes to fighting games, both 2D and 3D. Each system had a different niche that they excelled at, so they all sort of compliment each other.
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And so was SOTN. But the PS1 version is superioir afaik. It's the same thing with the Nintendo 64 versions of Resident Evil 2 and the Tony Hawk games. I'm not sure if the PS1 version of Rayman is better than the Saturn/Jaguar version or not, so I didn't include it in that list. Tomb Raider was better on PC so it doesn't matter if the Saturn version is poorer than the PS1 version.AppleQueso wrote:Resident Evil 1 was also on Saturn. Saturn also has uh... D and Enemy Zero?Menegrothx wrote: Survival Horror:
Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1&3 (got RE2 1½ years before the N64)
I wasn't arguing against Saturn (intentionally) though.TheSonicRetard wrote: Night
Wipeout
Personally, I don't think either the N64 or the Playstation comes close to the Saturn when it comes to fighting games, both 2D and 3D. Each system had a different niche that they excelled at, so they all sort of compliment each other.
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SOTN (and Castlevania in general) is about as far away from "Survival horror" as I can imagine. They're action/platformers.Menegrothx wrote:And so was SOTN. But the PS1 version is superioir afaik. It's the same thing with the Nintendo 64 versions of Resident Evil 2 and the Tony Hawk games.AppleQueso wrote:Resident Evil 1 was also on Saturn. Saturn also has uh... D and Enemy Zero?Menegrothx wrote: Survival Horror:
Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1&3 (got RE2 1½ years before the N64)
But that's pretty much what most horror games are. Adventure games with zombies/monsters/ghostsTheSonicRetard wrote:D and Enemy Zero are more like adventure games than Survival Horror. Especially D. Enemy Zero is... way different, but it feels more like an adventure game to me.AppleQueso wrote:Resident Evil 1 was also on Saturn. Saturn also has uh... D and Enemy Zero?Menegrothx wrote: Survival Horror:
Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1&3 (got RE2 1½ years before the N64)
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...that's why I put it in the "2D platformers" category.AppleQueso wrote: SOTN (and Castlevania in general) is about as far away from "Survival horror" as I can imagine. They're action/platformers.
Atleast Battle Area Toshinden is horrible on the Saturn compared to the PS1 version from what I've read. Not sure if's the same with Wipeout. I assume Silhouette mirage and SOTN are equally good on the Saturn though.TheSonicRetard wrote: EDIT: but replying to his list, the following games are on the saturn as well:
Battle Area Toshinden
Silhouette mirage
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Wipeout
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Right, you bringing it up when I quoted the Survival Horror part made me think otherwise. My bad.Menegrothx wrote:...that's why I put it in the "2D platformers" category.AppleQueso wrote: SOTN (and Castlevania in general) is about as far away from "Survival horror" as I can imagine. They're action/platformers.
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The thing that set the PS1 apart for me are the "unique" games that did not have analogues on other consoles. These include:
Incredible Crisis;
N2O;
PaRappa The Rapper;
Top Shop;
Tobal No. 1; and
UmJammer Lammy;
among others. The PS1 was such an exciting system in the 90s, and it received a lot of great exclusives from Squaresoft (which - in my opinion - was the 90s most exciting developer). Moreover, Sony took some risks bringing over some great, quirky games from Japan, many of which received budget releases.
The N64 also did some interesting things in the 90s. It was the go-to platform for FPSs, party games, and 3D platformers - all of which were novel at the time.
The Saturn, in contrast, did established genres (2D fighters, JRPGs, beat 'em ups, shmups, etc.) very well, but it was always catching up to the PS1 and N64 with regard to genres that were new at the time. With regard to those genres, the PS1 would get a game (i.e., Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Wipeout, etc.) and the Saturn would get an inferior port a few months later. I love my Saturn today, but at the time, only Nights and the Panzer Dragoon games were exciting releases.
Incredible Crisis;
N2O;
PaRappa The Rapper;
Top Shop;
Tobal No. 1; and
UmJammer Lammy;
among others. The PS1 was such an exciting system in the 90s, and it received a lot of great exclusives from Squaresoft (which - in my opinion - was the 90s most exciting developer). Moreover, Sony took some risks bringing over some great, quirky games from Japan, many of which received budget releases.
The N64 also did some interesting things in the 90s. It was the go-to platform for FPSs, party games, and 3D platformers - all of which were novel at the time.
The Saturn, in contrast, did established genres (2D fighters, JRPGs, beat 'em ups, shmups, etc.) very well, but it was always catching up to the PS1 and N64 with regard to genres that were new at the time. With regard to those genres, the PS1 would get a game (i.e., Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Wipeout, etc.) and the Saturn would get an inferior port a few months later. I love my Saturn today, but at the time, only Nights and the Panzer Dragoon games were exciting releases.
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In a way, I suppose. I tend to thing Survival horror places a bit more emphasis on survival (i.e. managing resources, running from enemies, etc) than puzzle solving. when I think of adventure games, I think of stuff like Monkey Island or Dare to Dream.AppleQueso wrote:But that's pretty much what most horror games are. Adventure games with zombies/monsters/ghosts
I guess they do have conceptual roots, though. The point I was trying to make is that D and Enemy Zero have more in common with those types of adventure games than something like resident evil or alone in the dark.
Although, to be fair, there is really nothing like Enemy Zero period. I actually would have much preferred the game had no combat at all.
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It's a damn shame we never got LSD Dream emulator in the westprfsnl_gmr wrote:The thing that set the PS1 apart for me are the "unique" games that did not have analogues on other consoles.
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Sony's first party stuff is so weirdly overlooked when talking about their consoles. That's one thing I have to respect about them: their first party games are very unique. Sometimes they're great, sometimes they're not, but they're always creative.prfsnl_gmr wrote:The thing that set the PS1 apart for me are the "unique" games that did not have analogues on other consoles. These include:
Incredible Crisis;
N2O;
PaRappa The Rapper;
Top Shop;
Tobal No. 1; and
UmJammer Lammy;
among others. The PS1 was such an exciting system in the 90s, and it received a lot of great exclusives from Squaresoft (which - in my opinion - was the 90s most exciting developer). Moreover, Sony took some risks bringing over some great, quirky games from Japan, many of which received budget releases.
