The worst RPGs

[AppleQueso]

It's actually a competently made game in theory, but it royally screws everything up in execution to such a degree that is unforgivable, which makes it worse than stuff that is just outright bad like Magna Carta: Crimson Stigmata in my book..

Sounds exactly like Star Ocean: Til The End of Time, then.

[BoneSnapDeez]

Star Ocean 1, 2, & Blue Sphere are the only ones I find bearable to be honest.

[MrPopo]

It's actually a competently made game in theory, but it royally screws everything up in execution to such a degree that is unforgivable, which makes it worse than stuff that is just outright bad like Magna Carta: Crimson Stigmata in my book..

Sounds exactly like Star Ocean: Til The End of Time, then.

It has the advantage of not having a completely fucked up plot twist.

[AppleQueso]

It's actually a competently made game in theory, but it royally screws everything up in execution to such a degree that is unforgivable, which makes it worse than stuff that is just outright bad like Magna Carta: Crimson Stigmata in my book..

Sounds exactly like Star Ocean: Til The End of Time, then.

It has the advantage of not having a completely fucked up plot twist.

What the hell kind of RPG has a twist where it turns out your entire party are all video game characters? Not even M Night Shayamalan could come up with something as crazy as the shit that happens towards the end of that game.

I'd spoiler mark that, but fuck it, I think it's better if people aren't forced to waste like 50 hours of their time.

[disorderlyvision]

I know it is a beloved series but....The original Dragon Warrior on the NES. Mostly because I played it when I was 8ish years old and didn't have a friggin clue of what I was supposed to do. I massacred a bunch of slimes and that's about it.

I never really gave another RPG a chance after that until the PS1 came out and I was over at a friend's house who was playing Legend of Legaia (which I loved at the time, but didn't get too far when I tried to play it again a few years ago. It was too slow and tedious and hated the battle system as by then I had been spoiled by better rpg's.) The graphis are dated on Legaia now, but at the time I was impressed. It beat the hell out of attacking the slimes in DW. Then I played Legend of Dragoon, FFVII, VIII, IX, etc and RPG's have been part of my gaming ever since, but the initial experience of DW turned me off the genre for a long time, so that's why it gets my personal nomination of worst RPG. And I have still never been able to play through a DW game. I gave the one on the ps2 a shot...

[AppleQueso]

DW has some pretty dated mechanics, and the series remained very decidedly 'old school' throughout its entire lifespan. However, I think the game is far too important to the genre to really be something I'd ever consider to be in the "worst" camp.

[Erik_Twice]

That said, have you guys seen the original (Japanese) Dragon Quest? They character moves like a rock.

[BoneSnapDeez]

If you think Dragon Warrior is tough and tedious, check out the sequel.

Neither game has aged well - you're much better off playing the Game Boy Color ports.

But yeah, there's no way I could call such an early and influential game "bad."

[Zevin_Mars]

It's actually a competently made game in theory, but it royally screws everything up in execution to such a degree that is unforgivable, which makes it worse than stuff that is just outright bad like Magna Carta: Crimson Stigmata in my book..

Sounds exactly like Star Ocean: Til The End of Time, then.

It has the advantage of not having a completely fucked up plot twist.

Like hell it does. The plot in TLH is pretty much the most incompetently told tale ever told. It transcends a bad plot twist by just being the dumbest thing at virtually every twist and turn. I can stomach Star Ocean TtEoT's faux-Matrix BS more than I can the plot of TLH. There is a character in TLH who looks like she's about 6 but is actually fifteen. You see, her growth was stunted when she went to hell (?) and now she acts like an emotionally stunted child. Then she starts a relationship with the 18 year old elf looking guy. It's the dumbest work around to validate creepy lolicon BS ever.

Oh and a bad ass with long white hair and a scythe (with a RETRACTABLE SECOND BLADE) and scars is named "Arumat P. Thantos." Arumat being an anagram for "Trauma" and Thanatos being the greek word for death. I can only imagine the P stands for "Perdition" or "Purgatory".

It pretty much rips the Rosewell/Area 51 scenario from Shadow Hearts: From the New World off wholesale but instead of playing it for laughs like that game did, its played for really cheap, schlocky pathos.

And don't even get me stated on the special ending. Which you have to go out of your way to get and completely invalidates the only moment in the game that even came close to having any weight.

But the big reason why I place TtEoT above TLH is that TtEoT let you have some choice over who was in your party, TLH has a fixed party of boring vapid characters who all exist to either just be faces on your ship (the men) or be another anime fetish cliche thing in the ongoing harem subplot/running gag that plays out in the fringes of the game plot (the women).

The party thing is actually one of my biggest problems, as the game feels like it was built to have a flexible party, but they went with a fixed party when they just kind of gave up halfway through development.

Oh and the level design is so bad that it you can tell the dash feature was added just to try and make it less painful. It doesn't.

[AppleQueso]

I see i'm not the only one scarred by a Star Ocean game