80s Hair Metal Bands - Retrospective

[AppleQueso]

I think Luke just got dogpiled a bit. Sorry, man!

[aaron]

I think Luke just got dogpiled a bit. Sorry, man!

[AppleQueso]

I think Luke just got dogpiled a bit. Sorry, man!

Radio friendly

[aaron]

i mean, some stations do play these old metallica songs on the radio, but they are usually on specialty programs like Dee Snyder's House of Hair and the like. Whiplash isn't going to be included in any regular rock radio station's normal playlist.

[Luke]

ONE isn't a ballad? Or does everything Black Album and further not count?

I'm totally open to debate on this, but Metallica to me is lumped into the arena rock genre. Nothing against them, but they feature more theatrics than a Broadway show.

That in mind, I have a hard time separating albums from performances. When I saw Metallica they had a fake fire, a "fireman" who fell from a harness, a guy puked on my Chuck Taylors and then he tried to sell me a sticker for ten dollars.

[AppleQueso]

ONE was from ...And Justice For All, which came out before The Black Album. And I don't know, the whole "Darkness... Imprisoning Me" part doesn't seem very ballady to me...

"Arena rock" kinda has a certain sound too, it's got really nothing to do with what sort of theatrics a band has. Iron Maiden has tons of theatrics in their shows, and that band is undeniably definitive heavy metal.

Let me put it this way, Luke. You calling Metallica "arena rock" or "hair metal" (especially with regard to the first three or four albums) is like people calling Django Unchained a spaghetti western.

[BurningDoom]

Aside from the fact that I don't really agree with BurningDoom's definition of what constitutes a hair band... Kill 'Em All had no ballad at all. Metallica also wasn't considered very radio friendly until the black album hit.

He was asking what defines a hair metal band, musically. As in besides the look.

All these bands have those traits in common:
-Bon Jovi
-Bulletboys
-Cinderella
-Motely Crue
-Ratt
-WASP
-Whitesnake

And Metallica is not like those bands in those regards.

Poison, I hate. They're like the boy band of hair metal bands. Pretty much there to impress the girls, and having very little actual musical chops.

[AppleQueso]

Aside from the fact that I don't really agree with BurningDoom's definition of what constitutes a hair band... Kill 'Em All had no ballad at all. Metallica also wasn't considered very radio friendly until the black album hit.

He was asking what defines a hair metal band, musically. As in besides the look.

All these bands have those traits in common:
-Bon Jovi
-Bulletboys
-Cinderella
-Motely Crue
-Ratt
-WASP
-Whitesnake

And Metallica is not like those bands in those regards.

Poison, I hate. They're like the boy band of hair metal bands. Pretty much there to impress the girls, and having very little actual musical chops.

Eh, I don't really think what you listed was necessarily wrong either. It's just that I think musical genres (especially when you're arguing subgenres of subgenres and such) are hard to pin down into bullet points like that.

[Luke]

Let me put it this way, Luke. You calling Metallica "arena rock" or "hair metal" (especially with regard to the first three or four albums) is like people calling Django Unchained a spaghetti western.

I think I just died inside a little bit.

Okay, calling Metallica Hair Metal is outlandish, but I was trying to open things into interpretation. I still think they are "Arena Rock" 'cause as far as I know they aren't playing bar mitzvahs as of late, and they are one of the biggest commercial bands of all times.

[AppleQueso]

Let me put it this way, Luke. You calling Metallica "arena rock" or "hair metal" (especially with regard to the first three or four albums) is like people calling Django Unchained a spaghetti western.

I think I just died inside a little bit.

Okay, calling Metallica Hair Metal is outlandish, but I was trying to open things into interpretation. I still think they are "Arena Rock" 'cause as far as I know they aren't playing bar mitzvahs as of late, and they are one of the biggest commercial bands of all times.

I figured that'd get to you a little.

Honestly, if you want to call them arena rock today, I don't really have any issue with it. They've been a very different band since the early 90s. In the 80s, though, they were a thrash metal band, pure and simple.