best NES and GBA turn based games?

[fastbilly1]

My main problem with Golden Sun is how easy it was. You could "charge" for lack of a better word, your characters up after each battle so you can use the ultimate summon as your first attack. That should never be an option.

And I mentioned the Lufia port since I think most of the gba ports are worthwhile. Sure they are not as good as the original versions, but they are still fun and work for on the go playing.

A couple more I thought of on the GBA:
Phantasy Star Collection - 1,2 and 3
Zoids Saga 1&2/Zoids Legacy - they are only soso games if you are not a zoids fan, but if you are a fan they are fairly good.

[nickfil]

this board is a wealth of information. Thanks guys!