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dsheinem wrote: What's the difference? Aren't both of them software?
Arguably, not many people care about vintage copies of Photoshop (though if you do, here is an article for you).

I still see it as something that people would get over, just like PC gamers largely did with Steam.
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isiolia wrote:
dsheinem wrote: What's the difference? Aren't both of them software?
Arguably, not many people care about vintage copies of Photoshop (though if you do, here is an article for you).

I still see it as something that people would get over, just like PC gamers largely did with Steam.
Exactly. Everyone at this site needs to acknowledge the fact that we are in the minority in terms of our interests. The majority of the customers won't care, assuming the consoles have sufficient space so that they don't have to be constantly redownloading games they want to play.
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Gamefly will sue over this. Gamestop will refuse to carry the consoles and more people will be outraged than you think NOBODY likes the idea.

That is if this is true and not something the gaming Tabloids Edge, Ign, Kotaku and Destructoid pulled out of their ass.
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MrPopo wrote:
isiolia wrote:
dsheinem wrote: What's the difference? Aren't both of them software?
Arguably, not many people care about vintage copies of Photoshop (though if you do, here is an article for you).

I still see it as something that people would get over, just like PC gamers largely did with Steam.
Exactly. Everyone at this site needs to acknowledge the fact that we are in the minority in terms of our interests. The majority of the customers won't care, assuming the consoles have sufficient space so that they don't have to be constantly redownloading games they want to play.
The big difference between the 2, though, is that it's a lot harder to sell used PC games. Most used shops, GameStop, and Play-N-Trade won't accept them. But console video games, they do. And a LOT of gamers out there are constantly selling their games to buy new games so they can actually afford them. Take that equation out, and you lose practically the entire lower-class of gamers, and many other casual gamers that may simply not want to put that kind of money into something they see as nothing more than an time-waster.

It also takes the rental business out of the equation. What about RedBox and Gamefly?

It's more than just the collector crowd they'd alienate with this move. We're just a part of the crowd.
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I wont say it will happen like this, but on PC (largely in thanks to Valve) sales bring even newly released games down more than 50% very, very often. Which is part of the reason I think PC gamers are relatively happy despite no used games and heavy DRM.
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RyaNtheSlayA wrote:I wont say it will happen like this, but on PC (largely in thanks to Valve) sales bring even newly released games down more than 50% very, very often. Which is part of the reason I think PC gamers are relatively happy despite no used games and heavy DRM.
GoG is even cheaper, and this is exactly why I use it.
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Honestly if they were just pushing digital only or something I'd be less bothered by it. Trying to restrict second hand sales on physical games is like them having their cake and eating it too.
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TheRev wrote:Gamefly will sue over this.
On what legal grounds?
Gamestop will refuse to carry the consoles and more people will be outraged than you think NOBODY likes the idea.
I'm not saying people like the idea. I'm saying the majority are indifferent.
The big difference between the 2, though, is that it's a lot harder to sell used PC games. Most used shops, GameStop, and Play-N-Trade won't accept them.
That's because used PC games usually involve a CD-Key that has already been registered. Even if it's just "only one person can be online at a time with the key", they can't guarantee that the person who sold them the game haven't made a copy of the CD and are also using the same key. So this would be turning console games into PC games. And PC games seems to still be a healthy market.
It also takes the rental business out of the equation. What about RedBox and Gamefly?
Since we're working off of speculation, it's not hard to imagine that there could be a special "rental" version, or even a "rental" key. So you get your disc and a newly generated key from the rental place and the key automatially becomes invalid after the rental period is up.
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Anti trust. Business tampering.

This is 21st century America you can sue over anything
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MrPopo wrote:
The big difference between the 2, though, is that it's a lot harder to sell used PC games. Most used shops, GameStop, and Play-N-Trade won't accept them.
That's because used PC games usually involve a CD-Key that has already been registered. Even if it's just "only one person can be online at a time with the key", they can't guarantee that the person who sold them the game haven't made a copy of the CD and are also using the same key. So this would be turning console games into PC games. And PC games seems to still be a healthy market.
Yeah. But that still doesn't change the fact that the move for consoles will alienate a lot of poorer gamers and other gamers that trade-in for new games.
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