I agree Hunter's a hard worker, and will put his body on the line, but he's never been the greatest wrestler. Though I'll admit, he has a good mind for ring psychology and telling a story, but in terms of moves and athleticism he's not top tier. His own friend HBK has always been leagues better, and Jericho has always been and still is in a whole other league compared to Hunter.BurningDoom wrote:Politics or not, there's no denying the talent that HHH has. He's damn good inside that ring. His moves always look hard-hitting and are always pulled off clean and smooth, and he has a large repertoire of moves in his arsenal to pull from. He has always been willing to put his body through hell in the name of a good match. Plus he's one of the greatest heels in all of wrestling history. Not to mention being a key member of 3 of the most influential factions in WWE history: Degeneration-X, The Corporation, and Evolution.Gamerforlife wrote:posted in the wrong thread just now, hopefully nobody read it before I deleted it as it was meant for the TV thread.
On another note
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I mostly agree with Bret here. Hunter works hard, and is a good promo, but I do feel like most of his success and legacy is due to politics, making the right connections, and knowing who to sleep with. He's not the most naturally talented or innovative guy to ever come to the WWE, but he's always been positioned well.
Kind of reminds me of Cena, except Cena is even less talented and less dedicated than Hunter ever was (just look at the halfass promos Cena's been doing lately or how he tried in no way at all to put over The Rock during their feud), but he is positioned strongly for whatever reason, just like Hunter always was. WWE can make ANYONE a huge star if they put the machine behind you
It's not like he's some scrub that only used politics to get ahead. It was a combination of both talent and politics. And you can't really fault the guy for doing what everyone else in the business at the time was doing. He was just trying to get ahead, like everyone else.
You can't say most of those things about Cena, on the other hand. One thing you can say about Cena though (as much as I hate the guy), he does love the business, and he does do a lot more in the name of the business than pretty much any other active wrestler today.
As for being a key member of the three greatest factions ever, like I said, he knows who to be friends with and how to be positioned well. One word, the cliq. A few more words, sleeping with the boss's daughter. I'm sorry, but no matter how great you think the guy or his career is, his relationship with Stephanie will always taint it. You just don't do that if you want people to respect your accomplishments. And while you can say others have played the political game, some people are much more infamous for it and it's amazing how Hunter's name ALWAYS pops up in such conversations. And there have been so many rumors over the years about him holding people down, you have to figure there's some truth to some of them. Hell, I even remember a former writer on a recent podcast making an offhand comment about the time before Rey Mysterio won the Royal Rumble and how people were debating behind the scenes if he should be the guy to win it, and this guy threw out this remark, "of course Hunter thought he should win it", with a kind of laugh that told me, that's just what Hunter does. He's always trying to put himself over
As for Cena, people are tired of hearing me rant about Cena. I could give you a list of reasons why I don't think he loves the business as much as people say he does, as well as lots of other guys who do just as much for the business as he does. That whole he does more for the business than anyone else is bullcrap. If anything, he probably gets more opportunities than anyone else, but that's just because Vince worships at the alter of Cena. Of course, you're gonna do more if you're given more opportunities than anyone else. Duh
