The Wrestling Thread

[TheRev]

EVERY company Hogan has worked for that wasn't WWE (or New Japan) is dead.
Hogan is like Wrestling Cancer BROTHER.

Yeah RIGHT before Hogan came to TNA everything was Awesome. AJ, Joe and Daniels were stealing EVERY show.

Then Hogan killed it like a boner that just saw an ugly fat chick.

[retrosportsgamer]

TNA's peak is arguably right before they brought RUSSO in. They had Kurt Angle coming in and Samoa Joe was a monster. Jim Cornette was writing/running things at that point and then they turned it over to the wrestling-killer Russo.

The wrestling pre-Hogan was very good - those shows are worth seeking out. Angle/Desmond Wolfe, Joe/AJ/Daniel threeways.

[BurningDoom]

EVERY company Hogan has worked for that wasn't WWE (or New Japan) is dead.
Hogan is like Wrestling Cancer BROTHER.

Yeah RIGHT before Hogan came to TNA everything was Awesome. AJ, Joe and Daniels were stealing EVERY show.

Then Hogan killed it like a boner that just saw an ugly fat chick.

Hogan also brought WCW to heights unknown up to that point, then brought them so high they were beating WWF on a regular basis when he did the nWo thing.

[TheRev]

I thought they peaked when they had Christian.

[pakopako]

EVERY company Hogan has worked for that wasn't WWE (or New Japan) is dead.
Hogan is like Wrestling Cancer BROTHER.

I wouldn't imagine he's a cancer. He's most likely the sign of the disease (that your company has issues if you're bringing him in on a regular basis), but not the disease itself.

[the King]

This is almost attitude era kind of stuff

http://www.wwe.com/videos/bad-news-brow ... 8-26073671

[Gamerforlife]

I'm not familiar with much of TNA's earlier stuff, but I have seen most of the fantastic stuff they did with Awesome Kong and Gail Kim. I figure if they were doing stuff that awesome with their women's division, I can only imagine how amazing everything else must have been. TNA made Gail Kim an object of my respect, which never happened when I was seeing her in the WWE. She's fucking hot too

[Luke]

I'm no superfan, so a lot goes under my radar. But I am reading "Mick Foley is Good" and had no clue that Papa Shango was also The Godfather. There are tons of character changes I was/am unaware of.

[Gamerforlife]

posted in the wrong thread just now, hopefully nobody read it before I deleted it as it was meant for the TV thread.

On another note

OH SNAP!

http://allwrestling.com/news/48464/bret ... ndertaker/

I mostly agree with Bret here. Hunter works hard, and is a good promo, but I do feel like most of his success and legacy is due to politics, making the right connections, and knowing who to sleep with. He's not the most naturally talented or innovative guy to ever come to the WWE, but he's always been positioned well.

Kind of reminds me of Cena, except Cena is even less talented and less dedicated than Hunter ever was (just look at the halfass promos Cena's been doing lately or how he tried in no way at all to put over The Rock during their feud), but he is positioned strongly for whatever reason, just like Hunter always was. WWE can make ANYONE a huge star if they put the machine behind you

Punk, Daniel Bryan and Ziggler have more talent in their pinky fingers than both of those guys. Rock blows them all out of the water as a promo guy, at least in his prime anyway, with probably no equal besides Steve Austin. HBK was the total package, and probably Flair in his day(I never saw him in his prime)

[BurningDoom]

posted in the wrong thread just now, hopefully nobody read it before I deleted it as it was meant for the TV thread.

On another note

OH SNAP!

http://allwrestling.com/news/48464/bret ... ndertaker/

I mostly agree with Bret here. Hunter works hard, and is a good promo, but I do feel like most of his success and legacy is due to politics, making the right connections, and knowing who to sleep with. He's not the most naturally talented or innovative guy to ever come to the WWE, but he's always been positioned well.

Kind of reminds me of Cena, except Cena is even less talented and less dedicated than Hunter ever was (just look at the halfass promos Cena's been doing lately or how he tried in no way at all to put over The Rock during their feud), but he is positioned strongly for whatever reason, just like Hunter always was. WWE can make ANYONE a huge star if they put the machine behind you

Politics or not, there's no denying the talent that HHH has. He's damn good inside that ring. His moves always look hard-hitting and are always pulled off clean and smooth, and he has a large repertoire of moves in his arsenal to pull from. He has always been willing to put his body through hell in the name of a good match. Plus he's one of the greatest heels in all of wrestling history. Not to mention being a key member of 3 of the most influential factions in WWE history: Degeneration-X, The Corporation, and Evolution.

It's not like he's some scrub that only used politics to get ahead. It was a combination of both talent and politics. And you can't really fault the guy for doing what everyone else in the business at the time was doing. He was just trying to get ahead, like everyone else.

You can't say most of those things about Cena, on the other hand. One thing you can say about Cena though (as much as I hate the guy), he does love the business, and he does do a lot more in the name of the business than pretty much any other active wrestler today.