Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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kingmohd84 wrote: In good news, I connected my 64 and VHS and they looked really good! 64 was extra blurry/smooth but at least not jagged and pixelated .
Well if you're happy with it that's all that really matters I suppose.
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kingmohd84 wrote: Maybe I am sitting too close to the TV, its 42 and I am sitting about 3 feet away or so.
Definitely too close. I have a 42 plasma and things don't look so hot that close to mine either. Once I'm 6 feet or more on the floor or 8+ on the couch then we're talkin'.
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Hobie-wan wrote:
kingmohd84 wrote: Maybe I am sitting too close to the TV, its 42 and I am sitting about 3 feet away or so.
Definitely too close. I have a 42 plasma and things don't look so hot that close to mine either. Once I'm 6 feet or more on the floor or 8+ on the couch then we're talkin'.
Yeah , I am not familiar with this method as I have used CRTs all my life and CRT looks the same from far or close . So is a computer screen, so I never thought that 3 feet is not far enough.
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theclaw wrote:
You might have to invest in video mods and converts as needed.

As I was saying in another topic, HDTVs are more sensitive to source image quality.
They often display finer artifacts in lossy image sources that a CRT would hide. Avoiding RF or composite is easily the biggest potential step to improve old consoles on HDTV.

I'd rather buy a new TV to be honest that invest in anything . Converters and mods will cost money and probably add extra wires and connections. As for for RF and Composite , thats all you can use with N64 and an a VCR .

I am not sure if there is a huge jump between RF and composite though , but I would like to test out with an RF wire for the retro effect but not sure where to get those old ones that you plug from VCR to TV(or Snes to TV as far as I can remember)
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AppleQueso wrote:
kingmohd84 wrote: In good news, I connected my 64 and VHS and they looked really good! 64 was extra blurry/smooth but at least not jagged and pixelated .
Well if you're happy with it that's all that really matters I suppose.
Thanks for your care and input in this thread, it certainly helped.
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I sit maybe 3 feet from my 47" LCD for shmups. And maybe 4 feet for fighters with friends. But for games like RPGs I chill out on my bed about 8 feet away.
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A new TV is a gateway to the solution to your problem. Not on its own the solution.

Why? Because RF and composite themselves are the root of the problem, being lossy formats. In other words an intentionally flawed representation of the video most consoles render.

So... Here's what you do: Start with a TV capable of receiving clean video. Such as component. Then you're ready to set aside money toward mods and converters for consoles capable of better output.
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Computer monitors have vastly higher pixel density than TVs do. TVs are better now, but say around 2000 you would have a 19 inch US TV that displayed more or less 640x480, but a 19 inch monitor that displayed 1600x1200. Now you've got TVs that are 1280P, so that's 1280 pixels wide and say 42 inch like yours. That's still less horizontal resolution than a 12 year old 19 inch monitor and you're blowing it up nearly 4 times as wide (since the 42 inch is diagonal)
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Yeah I'm sure I'd seen PC monitors from like 1998 who could handle officially out of spec 2048x1536. Tiny as the pixels were...
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Re: Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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theclaw wrote:A new TV is a gateway to the solution to your problem. Not on its own the solution.

Why? Because RF and composite themselves are the root of the problem, being lossy formats. In other words an intentionally flawed representation of the video most consoles render.

So... Here's what you do: Start with a TV capable of receiving clean video. Such as component. Then you're ready to set aside money toward mods and converters for consoles capable of better output.

There is not much I can do about composite and RF that is the only signal my 64 and VHS will output . Dreamcast has a VGA connector but that is about it. Do you have a better solution?
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