Why DON'T you kill people?

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AppleQueso wrote:I don't feel I have the authority to take another person's life. Even if I knew I could get away with it, I still wouldn't want to do it.

In special circumstances like those ones elmagico was coming up with... I honestly don't know how I'd react in that situation. I'm not a vindictive individual and have never been too fond of the idea of revenge, and I imagine that even if I did snap and do something, I wouldn't feel good about it.

Even if killing someone meant I was saving someone else, even if it were the right thing to do, I still wouldn't feel good about it I think.

I'd probably make a pretty damn terrible soldier.


Your testosterone is low. Try increasing your intake of zinc, and exercise daily. Zinc will reduce the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a man's body, leading to increased levels of testosterone. Exercise will stimulate the sympathetic nervous system, which will in turn stimulate the testes to produce testosterone. If you are overweight, you should know that adipose will increase the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a process call aromatization.

And as for the anti-depressant drugs... the pharmaceutical companies who create these drugs aren't even sure exactly how they work, so who's to say they don't cause people to go crazy and want to kill people. Now, you could make the argument that most people who have taken these drugs have not killed anyone, but the same can be said about many of the known side-effects. Some people who take anti-depressants will experience nerve damage, however, most will not. The point being, that these drugs affect people differently, and no one knows for sure what they're doing to people.
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AppleQueso wrote:I don't feel I have the authority to take another person's life. Even if I knew I could get away with it, I still wouldn't want to do it.

In special circumstances like those ones elmagico was coming up with... I honestly don't know how I'd react in that situation. I'm not a vindictive individual and have never been too fond of the idea of revenge, and I imagine that even if I did snap and do something, I wouldn't feel good about it.

Even if killing someone meant I was saving someone else, even if it were the right thing to do, I still wouldn't feel good about it I think.

I'd probably make a pretty damn terrible soldier.


Your testosterone is low. Try increasing your intake of zinc, and exercise daily. Zinc will reduce the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a man's body, leading to increased levels of testosterone. Exercise will stimulate the sympathetic nervous system, which will in turn stimulate the testes to produce testosterone. If you are overweight, you should know that adipose will increase the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a process call aromatization.

Do you know AppleQueso? If not, on what grounds can you make claims like that about someone you don't know?
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chilimac wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:I don't feel I have the authority to take another person's life. Even if I knew I could get away with it, I still wouldn't want to do it.

In special circumstances like those ones elmagico was coming up with... I honestly don't know how I'd react in that situation. I'm not a vindictive individual and have never been too fond of the idea of revenge, and I imagine that even if I did snap and do something, I wouldn't feel good about it.

Even if killing someone meant I was saving someone else, even if it were the right thing to do, I still wouldn't feel good about it I think.

I'd probably make a pretty damn terrible soldier.


Your testosterone is low. Try increasing your intake of zinc, and exercise daily. Zinc will reduce the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a man's body, leading to increased levels of testosterone. Exercise will stimulate the sympathetic nervous system, which will in turn stimulate the testes to produce testosterone. If you are overweight, you should know that adipose will increase the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in a process call aromatization.

Do you know AppleQueso? If not, on what grounds can you make claims like that about someone you don't know?

One day about 10 years ago I began having sexual problems, so I went to a doctor and they diagnosed me with low testosterone. I was then prescribed a testosterone supplement gel that dramatically increased my testosterone levels. During this time I was very aggressive, and if you looked at me the wrong way, I wanted to rip your head off. It changed the way I viewed the world. When my testosterone was really high, I wanted to kick everyone's ass, and I had fantasies of conquering the world.

But then suddenly I started feeling highly emotional, and I would cry over everything. I would cry about starving children and dead insects, and when in this state, I could never imagine harming anyone. I literally couldn't harm a fly. If there was an insect in my home, I'd try to catch it and let it go outside rather than kill it.

So I went back to the doctor and explained to him how I was feeling and he ran some tests, and come to find out, my estrogen was now dangerously high. It was 3 times higher than my testosterone. I was told that my body fat was part of the problem (I was 100 pounds overweight at the time), and that it was causing my testosterone to convert to estrogen. So the doctor then prescribed a drug called Arimidex that reduces the conversion of estrogen, and a few days later I was back to normal.

So, thanks to this horrific experience, I know very well how hormones can affect the way people think and behave. AppleQueso sounds a lot like me when my estrogen was high and testosterone was low, and that's why I recommended that he do what he can to increase his testosterone. Of course I don't know AppleQueso personally, so he could be a woman and thus would probably want to continue thinking and behaving like one. And if that is the case, then I still recommend she increase zinc and exercise more, because she'll have more energy and be healthier and happier over all.
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chilimac wrote:Of course I don't know AppleQueso personally, so he could be a woman and thus would probably want to continue thinking and behaving like one.

If not wanting to kill people makes me a woman, then I'm the bustiest of the land.

Seriously, what the hell man?
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chilimac wrote:Of course I don't know AppleQueso personally, so he could be a woman and thus would probably want to continue thinking and behaving like one.


Since when does not being vengeful and opting to rationalize equate to being a woman?
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chilimac wrote:Of course I don't know AppleQueso personally, so he could be a woman and thus would probably want to continue thinking and behaving like one.

If not wanting to kill people makes me a woman, then I'm the bustiest of the land.

Seriously, what the hell man?

I believe that it is normal for men to want to kill others. Most men these days would probably disagree with me, and that is because their testosterone is much lower than it should be. Today's men are weak because their lives are too easy, they've been civilized for too long, and their testosterone is declining, and as a result they are beginning to think and behave like women.

Here is a study that proves that testosterone in men have been declining every year since the late 80's.

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscien ... netal.html
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chilimac wrote:I believe that it is normal for men to want to kill others. Most men these days would probably disagree with me, and that is because their testosterone is much lower than it should be. Today's men are weak because their lives are too easy, they've been civilized for too long, and their testosterone is declining, and as a result they are beginning to think and behave like women.

Here is a study that proves that testosterone in men have been declining every year since the late 80's.

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscien ... netal.html


You're making up generalizations about this study. Our lives have not become easier. There are many environmental factors that could effect testosterone levels. Just to name a few rational ones; Stress and Obesity. It's pretty obvious that the US has an obesity epidemic and many people in modern civilization are more stressed out now than ever. We're in the middle of a economic crisis, people are losing homes, students can't afford to go to school, many people are working 2 or more jobs if they've even been lucky enough to get one.

Cortisol contradicts testosterone when under prolonged stress and also adds to many other health problems such as obesity, depression, anxiety, lower pre-frontal cortext activity/reasoning, arthritis, PTSD. Not to mention the physiological response of someone under stress is the same whether they are making a public speech or defending themselves against a bear. It's the same amount of Cortisol released. So let us chastise and isolate the mentally ill! That will lower their stress levels and promote well being!

I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person, but the idea of men not being outwardly aggressive, not WANTING to kill people, or being vengeful is not acting like a woman and that is an outdated sexist notion.

... also studies do not "prove" anything. They may provide a PIECE of evidence for a theory or global understandings which we have not yet figured out. Correlation =/ causation.

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2010/09/27/stress-hormone/
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chilimac wrote: believe that it is normal for men to want to kill others.


I think I see (sort of) what you're getting at, although I don't believe testosterone is the main culprit here. I tend to believe everyone has a natural tendency to commit violence against one another. Those tendencies derive from a sinful nature, imho, and can be enticed under the right circumstances. We don't necessarily need to trace the origins of villainy back to a bad childhood, or a gun hobby, or abuse. We all have the capacity to unleash evil upon our fellow man. If you think you're incapable from of the malicious acts like the atrocities in Newtown, CT, think again.
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chilimac wrote:Today's men are weak because their lives are too easy, they've been civilized for too long, and their testosterone is declining, and as a result they are beginning to think and behave like women.

Thinking and behaving like women? Any examples you can give?
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fvgazi wrote:
chilimac wrote:Of course I don't know AppleQueso personally, so he could be a woman and thus would probably want to continue thinking and behaving like one.


Since when does not being vengeful and opting to rationalize equate to being a woman?


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