The Wrestling Thread

[retrosportsgamer]

I actually think Del Rio's turn has been kind of natural. He defended his best friend Ricardo when 3MB went after him and the spanish announcers (the crowd went nuts), and then last night decided to tag in Tommy Dreamer for the finish. It isn't like he's on the mic trying to be a super babyface like Miz (whose face turn is horrid) - and the fans have responded and kind of prompted this for ADR.

[retrosportsgamer]

It's like when you look at WWE and every heel has to be chicken shit coward who runs from fights, lies and cheats to win.

This has been the best part about the Shield - even when Ryback's music hits , they aren't scared, and even when he gets the best of them you never think they are a bunch of pussies. Their TLC match had some of the best heel psychology I have ever seen. It was unbelievabley refreshing.

[Gamerforlife]

I actually think Del Rio's turn has been kind of natural. He defended his best friend Ricardo when 3MB went after him and the spanish announcers (the crowd went nuts), and then last night decided to tag in Tommy Dreamer for the finish. It isn't like he's on the mic trying to be a super babyface like Miz (whose face turn is horrid) - and the fans have responded and kind of prompted this for ADR.

I think I just didn't have the benefit of seeing the pay per view so it felt weird seeing how he was acting on Raw. I generally like turns where they lay hints for weeks so that when the change happens it seems natural. They did that with Batista in Evolution when he turned on them and went face

It's like when you look at WWE and every heel has to be chicken shit coward who runs from fights, lies and cheats to win.

This has been the best part about the Shield - even when Ryback's music hits , they aren't scared, and even when he gets the best of them you never think they are a bunch of pussies. Their TLC match had some of the best heel psychology I have ever seen. It was unbelievabley refreshing.

The Shield is awesome! If nothing else I like them just for knocking Ryback down a peg. I think that may have actually gotten people behind Rybak even more, which is a good thing. You root for the good guy more when the bad guys actually seem dangerous. I've heard a lot of good stuff about The Shield's match at TLC. I have to look online and see if I can watch it somewhere. I haven't watched a pay per view in a while, saving up my money for Royal Rumble.

[BurningDoom]

All this praise for The Shield, yet nobody mentions Aces & Eights? I know there's this fad in wrestling to just hate on TNA and make fun of them, but give credit where credit is due. TNA has been doing this for a couple months already, and doing a pretty good job at it.

[BurningDoom]

How about that Philadelphia crowd on Raw this week? Gotta love em! THAT'S a wrestling crowd.

[Razzmatazz]

How about that Philadelphia crowd on Raw this week? Gotta love em! THAT'S a wrestling crowd.

I thought they were awful, although it may have been because I watched it on Youtube and WWE may have manipulated the crowd noises, but they barely cheered other than when Flair was getting in the ring. The Flair/Punk skit was brilliantly done although Flair can barely speak these days. Return of Boogeyman though? I'm not really sure on that one. And can someone enlighten me on the NXT guy who came out at the end of Raw? He looked like a scientists head had been stuck on a bodybuilders frame. His face just didn't intimidate me.
It was the first Raw I've watched in about 6/7 months, and I found it pretty disappointing.

[retrosportsgamer]

All this praise for The Shield, yet nobody mentions Aces & Eights? I know there's this fad in wrestling to just hate on TNA and make fun of them, but give credit where credit is due. TNA has been doing this for a couple months already, and doing a pretty good job at it.

Maybe in the beginning but Aces & Eights of late? They've been jobbing consistently and the story has been pretty neutered. I think they blew that by not following up on the tepid Devon reveal with something better (whomever Doc is or whomever is the real leader is). All they've done since is take out some midcarders and get pinned by Angle. Eventually Wes Brisco and Bischoff will turn (Brisco is definitely in A&E - he's been identifiable with the mask on) on him so maybe it'll pick up.

[retrosportsgamer]

How about that Philadelphia crowd on Raw this week? Gotta love em! THAT'S a wrestling crowd.

I thought they were awful, although it may have been because I watched it on Youtube and WWE may have manipulated the crowd noises, but they barely cheered other than when Flair was getting in the ring. The Flair/Punk skit was brilliantly done although Flair can barely speak these days. Return of Boogeyman though? I'm not really sure on that one. And can someone enlighten me on the NXT guy who came out at the end of Raw? He looked like a scientists head had been stuck on a bodybuilders frame. His face just didn't intimidate me.
It was the first Raw I've watched in about 6/7 months, and I found it pretty disappointing.

I was there live and after watching the RAW recaps on Smackdown last night (I have RAW DVR'd still) they definitely mixed the sound. Cena was booed out of the building and it was pretty faint then.

I thought the crowd wasn't as strong as it could have been, but thats just because the age demo is changing. I was sitting in the lower level and there were a ton of families with small children (all of which were scared shitless of fireworks so you just saw kids with their fingers in their ears the whole time). Despersed between them were your typically smarky crowd.

[retrosportsgamer]

And can someone enlighten me on the NXT guy who came out at the end of Raw? He looked like a scientists head had been stuck on a bodybuilders frame. His face just didn't intimidate me.
It was the first Raw I've watched in about 6/7 months, and I found it pretty disappointing.

It was a mixed RAW - almost felt like an Attitude era one. There was a ton of stuff going on and the main event lasted 3 minutes. The Flair segment was the best by far - just fantastic. The live crowd got even more out of that as I believe they cut to commercial before the Shield came out (and all of a sudden the show came back with Hell No in the ring).

The only reaction I was disappointed in was Dolph's real entrance for the main event but the crowd was completely burnt out after 4 hours of wrestling (Main Event taped first) and just cheering for HHH. Dolph got a decent pop earlier in the show when he came out but they missed later.

Oh and the "what" stuff is the worst still - I hate that crap. Sheamus didn't know what to do.

The big dude is Big E. Jackson - he looks like Brian Dawkins, and man did he look green outside of hitting his two moves the last two nights. AJ building a mini stable around Dolph though is a good thing, she could potentially elevate him more, especially when he eventually wins.

[Luke]

Just bought tickets for Smackdown, Feb. 2nd as a Christmas gift for my wife. Like myself, she's not a big wrestling fan but wants to see how a show plays out in real life. We'll be five rows back from the ring, so I hope I bought decent tickets.