What Made you Smile/What Ticked you off Today?

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Forlorn Drifter wrote:In many ways, the Confederate flag is becoming a punk/rebellious symbol similar to the overzealous use of the British flag by certain bands and such.
Or in this case having it as your avatar will just make some people think you're a douchenozzle. Your choice.

I think the manji is a cool looking symbol, but I'm not going to put it all over things I own as it will make most people assume I'm racist. Especially as I'm blond hair and blue eyed.
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AppleQueso wrote:The fuck does that avatar even mean? What on earth does waving the confederate flag in 2012 have to do with historical accuracy?
lol

I was wondering this too. And what does "political correctness" have to do with anything?
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AppleQueso wrote:The fuck does that avatar even mean? What on earth does waving the confederate flag in 2012 have to do with historical accuracy?
Look at all the people who ignorantly believe the North was the holy highness of moral standards of the time. They ignore how many in the North kept slaves as long as they could, they ignore how many hated Lincoln and his release of the slaves, they ignore how many of the white minorities were bullied and in many cases treated as bad or worse than the blacks, ignore how many of the southern poor, who got treated like shit, fought because the point was not slavery, not racism, but the freedom to keep ones way of life.


The point is being proud of heritage, whether or not it offends anyone.
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Hobie-wan wrote:
Forlorn Drifter wrote:In many ways, the Confederate flag is becoming a punk/rebellious symbol similar to the overzealous use of the British flag by certain bands and such.
Or in this case having it as your avatar will just make some people think you're a douchenozzle. Your choice.

I think the manji is a cool looking symbol, but I'm not going to put it all over things I own as it will make most people assume I'm racist. Especially as I'm blond hair and blue eyed.
Who gives a shit what they think?
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What "way of life" not tied to an economy built on slave labor were southerners fighting to keep?

How does that flag remind anyone of northern dissent?

What do you see as the distinction between "heritage" and "history" and what is it you feel would be list in regards to either by banning the flag from a school?
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dsheinem wrote:What "way of life" not tied to an economy built on slave labor were southerners fighting to keep?

How does that flag remind anyone of northern dissent?

What do you see as the distinction between "heritage" and "history" and what is it you feel would be list in regards to either by banning the flag from a school?
I stated that in a poor way. The fight was for States rights over that of the federal on certain issues, an idea that this country was originally built on.

When most people think of the flag, they see dumb rednecks and racists, they, often, then turn to bad mouthing the south, ignoring the fact that many northerners were also pro slavery. History books tend to skew in a way that makes the north seem like a cohesive anti slavery group when they were just the opposite.

My family fought under that flag. If my son or daughter wasn't wanted to proudly display the symbol, then they should. I don't care if it offends anyone. I don't get mad at the proud communists and all the bad shit we've seen done in communism. Why should anyone get mad at this?
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Forlorn Drifter wrote:The fight was for States rights over that of the federal on certain issues, an idea that this country was originally built on.
That's what it's about now, not then.
When most people think of the flag, they see dumb rednecks and racists, they, often, then turn to bad mouthing the south, ignoring the fact that many northerners were also pro slavery. History books tend to skew in a way that makes the north seem like a cohesive anti slavery group when they were just the opposite.
If one apple tree produces a bad apple here or there, does it deserve the same condemnation as the apple tree more than half of whose apples are bad?
My family fought under that flag. If my son or daughter wasn't wanted to proudly display the symbol, then they should. I don't care if it offends anyone. I don't get mad at the proud communists and all the bad shit we've seen done in communism. Why should anyone get mad at this?
I don't think you're going to win converts by comparing the pro-slavery confederacy to communism.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:
That's what it's about now, not then.[/quote]
Tell that to the personal journals of my family.
If one apple tree produces a bad apple here or there, does it deserve the same condemnation as the apple tree more than half of whose apples are bad?
I can turn that argument right around in favor of flying the flag.
I don't think you're going to win converts by comparing the pro-slavery confederacy to communism.
How about comparing it to the American flag, and how we proudly flew it while slaughtering the Native Americans, bombing Japan, running those concentration camps for Japanese Americans, and trying to police the world just like the country we worked to break away from.
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Pro-secessionist, has a confederate flag avatar that sputters nonsense about 'historical accuracy', and now he's going on about the evils of the American empire.

Damn dude. :lol:
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AppleQueso wrote:Pro-secessionist, has a confederate flag avatar that sputters nonsense about 'historical accuracy', and now he's going on about the evils of the American empire.

Damn dude. :lol:
I'm probably on a list somewhere...

I'll go ahead and change the avatar.
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