Playstation Vita thread

[MrPopo]

The sad thing is from a hardware perspective the Vita is a fine handheld. It's just that Sony keeps pushing devs to make console lite games instead of handheld games.

[ZenErik]

The sad thing is from a hardware perspective the Vita is a fine handheld. It's just that Sony keeps pushing devs to make console lite games instead of handheld games.

I much prefer pretty much everything about the Vita over the 3DS. Although the back touch screen wasn't really necessary. I don't have any games that make much use of it.

And up til now I really don't see how the Vita game selection is much, if at all, inferior to the 3DS lineup. Well, besides that more Vita games are ports from PS3 and PS2. But then again, most of the top rated 3DS games are N64 ports. Though I guess that's more acceptable to most people because they are beloved series and the originals are from 12-15 years ago.

[BoringSupreez]

And up til now I really don't see how the Vita game selection is much, if at all, inferior to the 3DS lineup.

Every 3DS game with a 70% or higher on gamerankings.com:

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy
Bit.Trip Saga
CRUSH3D
Cave Story 3D
Code of Princess
Colors! 3D
Crashmo
Dead or Alive: Dimensions
Fractured Soul
Hudson Soft/Nintendo, 2011 76.33%
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
Liberation Maiden
Mario Kart 7
Marvel Pinball 3D
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D
Mighty Switch Force!
Mutant Mudds
Nano Assault
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends
Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends
Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Pilotwings Resort
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask
Pushmo
Resident Evil: Revelations
Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure
Ridge Racer 3D
Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Shinobi
Star Fox 64 3D
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
Tales of the Abyss
Tetris Axis
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars
VVVVVV
ZEN Pinball 3D

Every Vita game with the same ranking:

Assassin's Creed III: Liberation
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention
Dokuro
FIFA Soccer
Gravity Rush
Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational
Hustle Kings
LittleBigPlanet
Lumines: Electronic Symphony
MLB 12: The Show
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
Mortal Kombat
MotorStorm RC
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
Persona 4 Golden
Plants vs. Zombies
Rayman Origins
Retro City Rampage
Smart as...
Sound Shapes
Street Fighter X Tekken
Super Stardust Delta
Tales From Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Unit 13
Virtua Tennis 4: World Tour Edition
When Vikings Attack!
WipEout 2048
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

There are more highly rated games on the 3DS than on the Vita, and many people will choose the system with more games on the shelf that they want.

[Stark]

That's only 14 games difference and the systems came out 11 months apart.

[dsheinem]

There are more highly rated games on the 3DS than on the Vita, and many people will choose the system with more games on the shelf that they want.

So, since February 2012 the Vita has had 31 games above 70% and since March 2011 the 3DS has had 45 games over 70%. Which system has a lack of quality titles?

edit: what Stark said

[BoringSupreez]

There are more highly rated games on the 3DS than on the Vita, and many people will choose the system with more games on the shelf that they want.

So, since February 2012 the Vita has had 31 games above 70% and since March 2011 the 3DS has had 45 games over 70%. Which system has a lack of quality titles?

edit: what Stark said

It's not just the number, it's how wide an audience the games appeal to. There's a lot more on the 3DS to draw in female and younger gamers than on the Vita. I'm sure that's a factor as well.

Looking over the Vita list, I don't really see anything besides Plants vs Zombies that the average girl would have much interest in.

[ZenErik]

There are more highly rated games on the 3DS than on the Vita, and many people will choose the system with more games on the shelf that they want.

So, since February 2012 the Vita has had 31 games above 70% and since March 2011 the 3DS has had 45 games over 70%. Which system has a lack of quality titles?

edit: what Stark said

It's not just the number, it's how wide an audience the games appeal to. There's a lot more on the 3DS to draw in female and younger gamers than on the Vita. I'm sure that's a factor as well.

Looking over the Vita list, I don't really see anything besides Plants vs Zombies that the average girl would have much interest in.

LittleBigPlanet..

But you are right. Sony is marketing the Vita for the "hardcore" crowd. Or was? don't see much of any marketing anymore. The 3DS has appeal to a much wider audience.

[gtmtnbiker]

I would like to see the PS Vita do well. Sure, it will never do as well as the DS/3DS but it can still have a good following.

Looking at the recent media create thread at neogaf, I see this (these numbers are for Japan only):

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  WIU  |    308.142 |            |            |    308.142 |            |     308.142 |
| 3DS # |    211.499 |    167.408 |    350.321 |  4.517.235 |  3.234.299 |   8.799.378 |
|  PS3  |     36.994 |     29.809 |     44.661 |  1.079.875 |  1.340.634 |   8.716.260 |
| PSP # |     19.637 |     15.941 |     51.191 |    758.852 |  1.850.817 |  19.488.236 |
|  PSV  |     11.039 |     11.066 |            |    634.635 |            |   1.074.621 |
|  WII  |      6.714 |      5.550 |     46.018 |    445.479 |    698.283 |  12.608.700 |
|  360  |      1.216 |      1.217 |      3.211 |     72.354 |    105.266 |   1.608.399 |
|  PS2  |        904 |        812 |      1.268 |     55.005 |     73.373 |  21.829.112 |
| NDS # |        424 |        457 |      6.630 |     66.983 |    628.434 |  32.875.469 |
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|  ALL  |    596.569 |    232.260 |    503.300 |  7.938.560 |  7.931.106 | 107.308.317 |
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| 3DSLL |    136.373 |    106.757 |            |  1.480.868 |            |   1.480.868 |
|  3DS  |     75.126 |     60.651 |    350.321 |  3.036.367 |  3.234.299 |   7.318.510 |
| DSiLL |        179 |        248 |      4.007 |     36.787 |    329.309 |   2.331.106 |
|  DSi  |        245 |        209 |      2.609 |     30.196 |    278.494 |   5.864.246 |
|  PSP  |     19.637 |     15.941 |     51.191 |    758.852 |  1.835.277 |  19.312.249 |
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It's disturbing to see that it sold 50% less than the PSP (look at this week sales). I think it will get better once they discount it some more and get more/better titles out there.

[skyknight]

The sad thing is from a hardware perspective the Vita is a fine handheld. It's just that Sony keeps pushing devs to make console lite games instead of handheld games.

The rise of smartphones isn't something to be ignored as well (3DS sales pace are not the same as DS/DSi), as you have apps stores for iOS, Android, and Windows that offer quality games or ports (FFT, FFIII, GTA) for less than USD $20. While some Vita games are NOT worth their MSRP (Little Deviants...).

The harsh fact is Sony isn't marketing the Vita right: we have 2 bundles aimed for mature audience (both games that didn't received high reviews), 2 bundles aimed for younger audience w/o memory card - a serious crime!, and a 3G bundle with Unit 13 with 1 month of PS+, and a tiny 4GB memory card (please just give out the 8GB instead!).

The Vita has a much higher starting cost than the 3DS, a memory card is a must! And you would want to go with the highest capacity for the bang per buck, the 32GB which is set at USD $99.99 (I got mine at USD $77), especially if you are going to use the PS+ membership or download bunch of PSP games on PSN.

I did mention earlier Sony should've do a LBP Vita bundle: a Wi-fi only Vita (no need for AT&T 3G!) + LBP + a 16GB (just stop selling the tiny 4GB and 8GB!) + PSN voucher for Mutant Blob Attacks or Sound Shapes or Super Stardust Delta; all of this for USD $250, which I know Sony will lose money, but at least should move sales volume for the Vita. Either Sony takes a small loss right now or start clearing out all the Vita's they have one year from now.

[gtmtnbiker]

The Vita has a much higher starting cost than the 3DS, a memory card is a must! And you would want to go with the highest capacity for the bang per buck, the 32GB which is set at USD $99.99 (I got mine at USD $77), especially if you are going to use the PS+ membership or download bunch of PSP games on PSN.

I never understood why Sony had to use proprietary memory cards. I have a Sony Camcorder that I bought last year that uses SD cards.

The 3DS comes with a memory card (2GB for 3DS, 4GB for XL). It's small but it's there at least. It's also standard SD.