Help with Kega Fusion

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Help with Kega Fusion

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Hi everyone! New to the community here, and Emulation in general and in need of some assistance making Kega Fusion 3.52i launch ISO's for Sega CD. (Sonic CD actually. its a favorite)

for starters, i am running an intel based Macintosh computer with OS 10.6.8

I have what i believe to be the proper bios files for each region, and am not receiving any error messages when trying to load the game, but only a blank, black screen. the l.e.d indicators on the screen also show no activity. I saw somewhere else that this would mean the bios files arent even being read. ive tired putting them in multiple locations, and downloaded several different ones, all leading to the same end result. the files are currently in Kega's application support folder. i also made the changes in Kega to read the files in that location.

im sure my failure is a result of my own ignorance, so hopefully someone can point me the right way. lol
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I LOVE this site for tutorials on emulators.
http://www.fantasyanime.com/emuhelp/emu ... segacdbios

What it says about the Perfect Sync was what I needed help with.
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TuckettIII wrote:Hi everyone! New to the community here, and Emulation in general and in need of some assistance making Kega Fusion 3.52i launch ISO's for Sega CD. (Sonic CD actually. its a favorite)
Here is the most important thing that will help you:
-make sure you are using an ISO rip from a copy of Sonic CD that you ripped yourself. This is the best way to make sure that it will work.
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Breetai wrote:
TuckettIII wrote:Hi everyone! New to the community here, and Emulation in general and in need of some assistance making Kega Fusion 3.52i launch ISO's for Sega CD. (Sonic CD actually. its a favorite)
Here is the most important thing that will help you:
-make sure you are using an ISO rip BIN/CUE image from a copy of Sonic CD that you ripped yourself. This is the best way to make sure that it will work.
Fixed that for ya. ISO sucks, BIN/CUE is the format you wanna use for a Sega CD game. But you're absolutely right, ripping it yourself is best.
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Ziggy587 wrote:
Breetai wrote:
TuckettIII wrote:Hi everyone! New to the community here, and Emulation in general and in need of some assistance making Kega Fusion 3.52i launch ISO's for Sega CD. (Sonic CD actually. its a favorite)
Here is the most important thing that will help you:
-make sure you are using an ISO rip BIN/CUE image from a copy of Sonic CD that you ripped yourself. This is the best way to make sure that it will work.
Fixed that for ya. ISO sucks, BIN/CUE is the format you wanna use for a Sega CD game. But you're absolutely right, ripping it yourself is best.
Good point. I don't really use emulators, as it makes you less of a person if you do so. My apologies for giving an inferior ripping format.

Anyway, I think the point is that if you are using emulation, you are seriously missing out on how the game should be played. Emulation has many, many flaws. You won't know how a game is really supposed to look and sound unless you use an actual copy of the game on real hardware. I highly recommend not emulating. It might even be illegal.
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Breetai wrote:Good point. I don't really use emulators, as it makes you less of a person if you do so. My apologies for giving an inferior ripping format.
Just to share some info on the matter...

ISO doesn't have to be inferior, but it usually is. If you rip a Sega CD game to BIN/CUE, it'll be an exact 1:1 copy of the game. What you are usually able to download is ISO+mp3 with a CUE. The CUE is usually missing, and if it's included it's usually corrupt. This is all fixable, but still a needless problem that you'd have to deal with. Also, mp3 is a lossy format, so the audio quality wont be as good as a 1:1 copy like BIN/CUE. I'm assuming people convert the wav to mp3 to save bandwidth when down/uploading. If they left the image ISO+wav, then it might be equal to a BIN/CUE rip. But you still have to deal with a handful of audio files and a CUE for them. So for all these reason, BIN/CUE is the best way to go for a Sega CD game (as well as many other CD based games, but not all).

In addition to that, you never really know what you're downloading. You can download a BIN/CUE image, but that doesn't mean some one didn't convert that from an ISO+mp3 image in which case the audio is still a lower quality. So it's best to just rip the game yourself, whenever possible.
Breetai wrote:Anyway, I think the point is that if you are using emulation, you are seriously missing out on how the game should be played. Emulation has many, many flaws. You won't know how a game is really supposed to look and sound unless you use an actual copy of the game on real hardware. I highly recommend not emulating. It might even be illegal.
I agree 100%. I always prefer real hardware over emulation. But emulation does have its place. For example, for portability. Maybe you want to use it on a laptop when you're not at home, or a portable device such as the PSP.
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Breetai wrote: Anyway, I think the point is that if you are using emulation, you are seriously missing out on how the game should be played. Emulation has many, many flaws. You won't know how a game is really supposed to look and sound unless you use an actual copy of the game on real hardware. I highly recommend not emulating. It might even be illegal.
I've never really like this type of attitude.
The idea that because emulation can never be 100% "perfect" immediately makes it's presence, not only redundant, but out right blasphemy. This is simply not the case.

First off, emulation can be incredibly accurate in some cases, even to the point were one could be forgiven if he/she marked it as "perfect". BSNES and Genesis Plus GX come to mind.

Aside from emulation having its own advantages, as Ziggy has already stated, it also serves as a great way to keep these systems alive in spirit. The real hardware won't be around forever, and emulation will be needed to preserve these consoles from being lost forever.

I agree that playing it on the real system will always be the purist way to play any game. However, I do not want to misconstrue the importance of emulation.

(Also emulation isn't illegal, though downloading ROM's is another story)
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I agree with you 100% Lentfilms. I sent Bree a pm. This is what I wrote in replying to this.
Good point. I don't really use emulators, as it makes you less of a person if you do so. My apologies for giving an inferior ripping format.

Anyway, I think the point is that if you are using emulation, you are seriously missing out on how the game should be played. Emulation has many, many flaws. You won't know how a game is really supposed to look and sound unless you use an actual copy of the game on real hardware. I highly recommend not emulating. It might even be illegal.

Why were you in a area devoted to emulation then? Ive used emulators to play everything from NEO GEO to Nintendo DS, and overall Im ok with it. I think most emulators are pretty much as good as the actual games on actual hardware, but its just not the same experience. Ive played hundreads of games that I other wise wouldnt have been able to afford to play, and some games that Id NEVER be able to buy because they arent available any other way but through emulation.

The Game Overthinker made a video called Open The Vaults, and if you look on youtube for it, to me the answer to his concern in the video was infact emulation. I guess he couldnt say "hey everyeon, go out and emulate all these games that Nintendo doesnt want to release in america or arcade companies dont want to port to home console."

How else can everyone play Earthbound? Or Terranigma outside of Europe if they dont know Japanese?

Im not trying to sound mean, but I have an issue with people saying Im less of a person cause I wanted to play Earthbound, but couldnt afford to spend $100 on an actual copy, and then buy a SNES that still works that costs $40. I sold my SNES once I saw Link To The Past for $75 at a store.

Heres the video Game Overthinker made.
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IhatedSega, don't take what Breetai said to heart. His comment about you being "less of a person" for emulating was just a joke, I'm sure. Breetai was merely suggesting that TuckettIII should consider real hardware. He said, "I highly recommend not emulating." I believe he's well aware of how difficult it might be to play some games on real hardware, but we're really only talking about Sonic CD here.
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Breetai wrote:Good point. I don't really use emulators, as it makes you less of a person if you do so
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High and mighty breetai strikes again :lol:
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