The Comic Book Thread

[Gamerforlife]

B Doom:

Movies, Scmhoovies. I think you have pretty great taste in comics.

Any interest in posting weekly Wednesday suggestions?

Thanks for the compliment. I pretty much post most of my comic thoughts on this thread, already. I'm not sure my suggestions would agree with everyone else, anyways. I'm not an X-Men fan, and everyone else that reads comics is. And I don't read anything outside of Marvel and DC. Plus I'm a bigger of a DC fan than a Marvel fan, which also seems to against the grain of most comic book fans.

I'm right there with you. I bought a lot of Marvel comics in my late high school, early college days as that seemed to be what everyone I knew was reading. Now and days though, it's only DC books or Darkhorse books I buy. I think I've always been a DC guy even back when I was buying a lot of Marvel comics. I mean I've always been obsessed with Batman over the years. I saw the Tim Burton movies, the animated series, the Adam West show, played all the Batman video games. Anything DC put out into the pop culture I consumed. I was a fan of the Lois and Clark show. I watched all of the DC cartoons that spun off from Batman the Animated Series. I watched Smallville for the longest time until I eventually lost interest in it. I feel like DC has always played a big part in my life.

To me, DC is home to the most iconic superheroes. Everyone knows who Spiderman, Hulk,etc. are, but I bet the first person most people think of when they hear the word superhero is probably either Batman or Superman. They're the foundations that superheroes were built off of. If you mention female superheroes, I bet the average joe person will name Wonder Woman or Catwoman.

I loved the Avengers movie, but it only makes me think of how much better a Justice League movie would be if it was done right. Cause frankly, the League is cooler than the Avengers.

[Luke]

In case you guys didn't already know, Franco Urru died last week. He did a lot of work on Spike, Angel, and Buffy comics and was an incredible artist and person.

He had to drop several projects due to his health, but the people who worked with him will miss him for just being himself. He was said to be one of the easiest people to work with, and he never disappointed.

[Gamerforlife]

In case you guys didn't already know, Franco Urru died last week. He did a lot of work on Spike, Angel, and Buffy comics and was an incredible artist and person.

He had to drop several projects due to his health, but the people who worked with him will miss him for just being himself. He was said to be one of the easiest people to work with, and he never disappointed.

Holy crap! Yeah, I read a lot of that stuff he did. He worked with Brian Lynch a lot on the Angel book for IDW. That's a real shame. Those two did some great work together

[indecks]

I loved the Avengers movie, but it only makes me think of how much better a Justice League movie would be if it was done right. Cause frankly, the League is cooler than the Avengers.

SO absolutely true, without a doubt. I like a lot of Marvel heroes 'more' than I do DC heroes, except for the League. I mean come on:

Superman
Batman
Lantern
Flash
Wonder Woman

By far, more iconic than any Avenger. And I love Marvel heroes. I love Cap, Spidey is my favorite comic hero, Hulk is a lovable brute, but they just can't touch the League founders!

[BurningDoom]

I thought this was a cool read, so I thought I'd share it:

The History of Green Arrow From the Golden Age to Today:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=42479

[Mendoza]

Played X-Men Legends some today and got a bit nostalgic for the Ultimate X-Men.

Is anyone reading that series still, post ultimatum.

Ultimatum was the story that put me off collecting singles for most books and made me drop the ultimate universe in total. I've heard they somehow put the x-men book back together after loeb killed it and defiled its corpse, but Marvel has burned me so much lately that I'm gunshy.

Thoughts?

[BurningDoom]

Played X-Men Legends some today and got a bit nostalgic for the Ultimate X-Men.

Is anyone reading that series still, post ultimatum.

Ultimatum was the story that put me off collecting singles for most books and made me drop the ultimate universe in total. I've heard they somehow put the x-men book back together after loeb killed it and defiled its corpse, but Marvel has burned me so much lately that I'm gunshy.

Thoughts?

You really shouldn't base your entire comic reading habits off of your reaction to the Ultimate Universe. It's just some crappy side universe where creators can get away with doing things to characters that wouldn't fly in the normal Marvel Universe. And pretty much everything in the Ultimate Universe has been for pure shock-value alone following Ultimatum without any regard for good storytelling.

[Mendoza]

Played X-Men Legends some today and got a bit nostalgic for the Ultimate X-Men.

Is anyone reading that series still, post ultimatum.

Ultimatum was the story that put me off collecting singles for most books and made me drop the ultimate universe in total. I've heard they somehow put the x-men book back together after loeb killed it and defiled its corpse, but Marvel has burned me so much lately that I'm gunshy.

Thoughts?

You really shouldn't base your entire comic reading habits off of your reaction to the Ultimate Universe. It's just some crappy side universe where creators can get away with doing things to characters that wouldn't fly in the normal Marvel Universe. And pretty much everything in the Ultimate Universe has been for pure shock-value alone following Ultimatum without any regard for good storytelling.

I stopped getting singles because i hated the fact that I paid for half of that series before i realized it was complete garbage. I had been unhappy with big events like Civil War and House of M, so Ultimatum was the nail in the coffin for buying singles. I switched to trades and only got singles of series i had every issue of already(Punisher Max, Red Sonja, Lady Death)

Ultimate X-Men is actually what got me back into comics, so seeing it destroyed like that was pretty horrible for me.

The last normal continuity X-Men book that I enjoyed a lot was Mike Carey's X-Men Legacy. X-Force was good when it came back, but when it shifted to Uncanny X-Force I couldn't get into it, and I'm not a fan of Remender after his awful Frankencastle story.

[BurningDoom]

You didn't like House of M or Civil War? Wow. Those are two rare examples of Marvel crossover events actually delivering and being entertaining, IMO. Great alternate-reality tale in House of M that was a very cool alternate-universe to explore with eye-popping artwork. And an action-packed and dramatic storyline with Civil War that really had no clear-cut "good guys" side and made you think as a fan; plus that's one helluva shocker at the end of it all.

[Mendoza]

You didn't like House of M or Civil War? Wow. Those are two rare examples of Marvel crossover events actually delivering and being entertaining, IMO. Great alternate-reality tale in House of M that was a very cool alternate-universe to explore with eye-popping artwork. And an action-packed and dramatic storyline with Civil War that really had no clear-cut "good guys" side and made you think as a fan; plus that's one helluva shocker at the end of it all.

My problem with house of m was it put the entire x-line in a horrible place for years. The depowering sounded like a good idea, but it ended up being a disaster. I also don't get how it was basically handled by Bendis and then he went back to writing the avengers and left the rest of the x-staff in the lurch to clean up the mess. Undoing M day has basically been what ever X-Men event has been building to, and even the pay off for that is pretty weak. AVX just made the avengers and x-men both look bad. No one seemed to act rationally at all for the sake of the plot. And to top things off Wanda ruins millions of lives, gets lots of people killed, and by the end of AVX she gets a pass. Shes redeemed. Why? She hasn't begun to atone for what she did, even if she was crazy when she did it.

Civil War was the last marvel event that i got. What shocker at the end? Cap's death is the only real shocking event to come out of it, and that happened after the event was over. I hated the ending, and pretty much everything up to that point. The pro-reg side was almost completely unsympathetic after the first few issues. Mr. Fantastic betrays his friends and family because of a math equation? Captain America even has his moment of seeming like a complete ass when he beats the crap out of the Punisher, and the Punisher wont even fight back. The heroes fighting really didn't solve anything. Marvel never made any attempt to show how this registration was any different from the Mutant Registration idea they had had years ago. None of the heroes seemed to care that the whole incident was a set-up by that insurance company Damage Control. Your right though, there were no good guys, cause everyone looked like a jerk, just some more than others.

Ultimately, what comes out of Civil War? The registration act gets repelled. The public that was so outraged at superheroes goes right back to not caring in the slightest. I still don't buy the people stopping Captain America at the end of Civil War. Tony Stark does such a bad job running shield they let Osbourne run it, which again brings the sanity of the common marvel universe people into question. That led to Siege which is forgettable at best, and then ultimately AVX.

If you like those stories thats cool, I'm not saying its wrong to like them, but they did nothing for me. But I haven't liked a major crossover event that Marvel has had in a while. I guess Messiah War was decent, but I think i just liked the Cable/Hope dynamic alot, and future Deadpool was funny.