N64 extra cartridge slot

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kingmohd84 wrote:After reading the article, I find it confusing that Nintendo had an expansion port in each console yet each one of them over 2 decades was hardly been used. Its nice to see they finally learned and did not add it to the Wii or Wii U, none the less I still do not know why they added 2 USB ports and an SD card slot. Well...the SD card slot is very useful for homebrew :p Thanx Nintendo!
It is very wise to put an expansion port on a console to leave yourself the possibility of future ideas. The fact that they didn't see much use doesn't mean they should have been left out. Every one of Nintendo's home consoles had an add-on device. The fact that they weren't popular is something else, but they would never have existed at all if the consoles didn't have expansion ports. BS Zelda is awesome! And some people would be very unhappy if they found out they could have had the GB Player for the Cube, if only Nintendo was smart enough to put an expansion slot on the console. There's also unofficial products for some console's expansion ports. Like copier devices for the N64 or the GameShark for the PS1. So I'd say over all, expansion slots are a very good thing.

Nintendo didn't wise up and not include expansion ports on the Wii, the USB ports and SD slot can be thought of as expansion ports for the same purposes. They're just not proprietary, which is better for us.

The Wii's USB ports and SD slot are important. I use both for very important things, and my console isn't even modified. I use the LAN adapter in a USB port since I don't wanna rely on wireless. I use an SD card to store games downloaded from the Wii shop channel (there's the SD card menu).

Nintendo was smart to give us an SD slot. At the start, it had limited functionality. Viewing pictures on the Photo Channel isn't something I care about, but being able to transfer game saves to and from a buddies console is great. But more importantly, it's more cost effective then giving the Wii more internal memory. It doesn't exactly have a lot. They could have added more, and made the console more expensive. SD cards are a lot cheaper these days. And Nintendo added the SD card menu.
kingmohd84 wrote:The other thing I never understood about manufacturers is why do they have different ports for each device? Why is electricity port is different form the joystick's , and that is different from the cartridge, and that cartridge is different from the cartridge pins from a previous generation. Why couldnt they agree on a single port like USB is today?
Well those are all much different devices. Power input is much different than a cartridge slot. As to why cartridge slots are different from generation to generation, there's a number of reasons. First of all, it has to do with memory size. If you look at the number of address lines needed for the small memory in an Atari 2600 cart, it's not that many. If you look at the number of address lines needed for a SNES cart, it's a lot more. Another good reason to change the cart slot though is to keep it proprietary, and for obvious reasons.
kingmohd84 wrote:Gamecube has 3 differently sized expansion ports!
Again, all for different things. I believe two of the ports are serial and one is parallel. IIRC, the only two official products were the modem and GB Player. And I've never owned the modem before, but I believe you are able to plug the modem in and still be able to plug the GB Player in. So if you were a person that uses both frequently, it would be really annoying to have to remove one to install the other, and back and forth all the time.
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kingmohd84 wrote: The other thing I never understood about manufacturers is why do they have different ports for each device? Why is electricity port is different form the joystick's , and that is different from the cartridge, and that cartridge is different from the cartridge pins from a previous generation. Why couldnt they agree on a single port like USB is today?
Try wiring up the power cable straight into the controller ports and see what happens...
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Still waiting for that Phillips SNES CD...
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I remember my friend said it was to play old Nintendo games on the system back in the day. I wish that were true. :lol:
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@Ziggy

Still, the use of these ports seems very limited for any manufacturer to go ahead and put them in. For example you said you prefer wired over wireless internet, but how many people actually do this ?

but very useful information from you none the less

@Applequeso

i have 0 electric knowledge , i just know how to plug wires into sockets.
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kingmohd84 wrote: @Applequeso

i have 0 electric knowledge , i just know how to plug wires into sockets.
Well, basically, different voltages, different polarity, different amperage. You feed the wrong kind of power to the wrong thing, and you can really fry some stuff. Basically the different shaped ports are to stop you from accidentally destroying your own hardware.
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AppleQueso wrote:
kingmohd84 wrote: @Applequeso

i have 0 electric knowledge , i just know how to plug wires into sockets.
Well, basically, different voltages, different polarity, different amperage. You feed the wrong kind of power to the wrong thing, and you can really fry some stuff. Basically the different shaped ports are to stop you from accidentally destroying your own hardware.
it all makes sense now...but I am sure glad we are over the multiple pins and multiple wires era. HDMI not component , USB not S pin .
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Yeah, that's when you need to remember your old physics classes - V x A = W

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there is an example of nintendo removing a port without notice.
later gamecubes lacked the digital out.
actually they removed the port what is used and is used (only) by an official nintendo product.
while they kept producing consoles with ports never used :mrgreen:
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Confirming that yeah, GB Player and the LAN adapter can be used at the same time. I imagine the modem would be too, but I don't have that one.

That being said, I remember the rumor being that the expansion on the bottom of the NES was for Genesis games :D Wouldn't that be neat? But I think the only system ever that could officially play games from a competitor was the Colecovision playing Atari 2600 games with an addon.


Also on the topic of some of the original posts "saving money" by not putting the expansion ports on - you realize the cost of these ports is a matter of pennies, right? Certainly nothing that they worried about vs the possible money they could've made with an expansion -- even a not very popular one (but MAN was the Game Boy Player fan-freaking-tastic)
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