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noiseredux wrote:my serious problem with iPhones is the price. All around. I have LG Optimus V right now. It was under $200. I have no contract, but a ton of minutes and unlimited text and data through Virgin Mobile. I get this for about $25 a month (this same plan is now about $35 I believe -- as my wife recently upgraded to Droid and got an Optimus Elite, but I'm grandfathered). Oh and Android apps? I've yet to find one that I wanted that wasn't free. Spec-wise, I really don't care that I'm on a 3G network. I use the internet on my phone to browse here, check my email and stream Pandora and podcasts. 3G handles all of that just fine. With these prices in mind, it's aways kind of amazing to me how much people spend on cellphones and their contracts.
New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
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dsheinem wrote: New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
I didn't know I was making a counter-argument. I was just saying why I wouldn't want one. If I can have a plan that I like for $25 a month or one "starting" at "$50ish" a month (you didn't say if this is an unlimited data plan like the one I have) then why would I opt to pay double? I'm confused.
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noiseredux wrote:
dsheinem wrote: New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
I didn't know I was making a counter-argument. I was just saying why I wouldn't want one. If I can have a plan that I like for $25 a month or one "starting" at "$50ish" a month (you didn't say if this is an unlimited data plan like the one I have) then why would I opt to pay double? I'm confused.
Android phones are expensive too. Often the same price as iPhones. Where Android phones can be a better value is storage capacity for the price because a majority of (but not all) Android phones accept micro SD cards.
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ZenErik wrote:
noiseredux wrote:
dsheinem wrote: New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
I didn't know I was making a counter-argument. I was just saying why I wouldn't want one. If I can have a plan that I like for $25 a month or one "starting" at "$50ish" a month (you didn't say if this is an unlimited data plan like the one I have) then why would I opt to pay double? I'm confused.
Android phones are expensive too. Often the same price as iPhones. Where Android phones can be a better value is storage capacity for the price because a majority of (but not all) Android phones accept micro SD cards.
That's another good point. And the S3 has a removable battery.

Dave what specs on the iPhone do you like more besides the apple symbol?

The battery life is longer I believe an expected 2-3 hours talk time. You can still do more with android even without rooting or jailbreaking.

IPhones are streamlined I don't like how they want to hold the users hand or restrict them. Plus proprietary cable, non removable battery, and no expansion slot annoy me.
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noiseredux wrote:
dsheinem wrote:iphone is too popular to be hipster...

droid, on the other hand....
nah, hipsters go for the iPhone and people who value their money go for Droid.

I have an LG EnV3

Anybody else in here with a no-smart phone?
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dsheinem wrote:So I am eligible for an upgrade to my current cell phone (an iPhone 4) and will be trying my luck at picking one up tomorrow morning.
I have an iPhone 4 and I pre-ordered the 5 last friday. My phone is doing fine, but the cost to upgrade is only $180 (less if you consider I paid $150 for my current phone and can sell it for $300), so it's an obvious purchase for me.

I don't really play games on it, but otherwise it is a pretty essential device for me.
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noiseredux wrote:
dsheinem wrote: New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
I didn't know I was making a counter-argument. I was just saying why I wouldn't want one. If I can have a plan that I like for $25 a month or one "starting" at "$50ish" a month (you didn't say if this is an unlimited data plan like the one I have) then why would I opt to pay double? I'm confused.
Here in Canada, the choice is obvious. The plans between the major carriers are virtually identical. It makes no difference if you are on a contract or not, you are paying the same rate as everyone else every month. This means the price of an iPhone 5 is $180 with essentially no other cost. There isn't even a free phone out there that provides more value for me.
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noiseredux wrote:
dsheinem wrote: New iphones with contracts are $200, older ones are cheaper and even free. Contracts can be had for as little as $50ish a month last i checked. I don't see price as a good counter-argument, sorry.
I didn't know I was making a counter-argument. I was just saying why I wouldn't want one. If I can have a plan that I like for $25 a month or one "starting" at "$50ish" a month (you didn't say if this is an unlimited data plan like the one I have) then why would I opt to pay double? I'm confused.
I am guessing on iPhone price plans, which probably vary by carrier and so may be more or less than $50 at minimum. Will your carrier allow you to use that ridiculously low grandfathered plan on an Android phone but not an iPhone for some reason? Then yes, your choice seems clear but the reasoning has no real bearing on anyone else's choice but your own. I still don't see your "logic" (since you don't like the term "counter-argument").
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Jmustang1968 wrote:

IPhones are streamlined I don't like how they want to hold the users hand or restrict them. Plus proprietary cable, non removable battery, and no expansion slot annoy me.
I will say that, prior to my "conversion" to Apple's phone, I was firmly in the anti-proprietary, anti-regulation, anti-swappable parts, anti-streamlined camp as a matter of principle. However, when my carrier was forcing me to pay a $15 per month 3G charge for an Android device even though I lived in an area with no 3G, I switched to a carrier with the iPhone and found it to be a better built, less buggy phone with a better marriage of hardware to software. I've never "felt" constrained by all those things I once found (in principle) to be irritating.
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dsheinem wrote: I am guessing on iPhone price plans, which probably vary by carrier and so may be more or less than $50 at minimum. Will your carrier allow you to use that ridiculously low grandfathered plan on an Android phone but not an iPhone for some reason? Then yes, your choice seems clear but the reasoning has no real bearing on anyone else's choice but your own. I still don't see your "logic" (since you don't like the term "counter-argument").
nope, my carrier has separate plans for iPhones and they are pricier than the one I have for my LG, or even the plan that my wife just got for her LG. So again, I don't have any reason to spend more. I've never seen an iPhone do anything that I was like "oh damn, I wish my Droid could do that."
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