Neo Geo Emulation

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Neo Geo Emulation

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Okay, while I'm no expert on emulation, I've gotten to the point where I can get most 16 bit or older consoles/portables working on my PC. NES, SNES, Genesis, SMS, TG16, Gameboys, all fine. However, I recently tried to use some Neo Geo roms I'd dl'd, and I can't seem to get them running. I've tried two different emulators, NeoRage X and Nebula v 2.25, and I roughly get the same problem.

I download and unzip the games and the emulator. I run the emulator, choose to load a rom, and I get this big list of Neo Geo games (only one or two of which I actually have on my PC), but can't get them run. I end up getting an error saying it couldn't find the rom on my pc (and in the case of one the emulators, it crashes after the message). I've tried fiddling with the settings, I tried putting the roms into the "Roms" folder that came with one of the emulators, but I couldn't get it to work.

Can someone more knowledgable give me some help here?


Oh, and on an unrelated note, I have a question about Sega CD emulation as well. I recently got some Sega CD ISOs, and tried to play them on the KEGA Emulator (Genesis, Gamegear, Master System, 32x, Sega CD multi purpose deal). While most of them worked fine once I set up the BIOs, such as Sonic CD, Snatcher, Lords of Thunder, and a few others, some of them (Popful Mail, Heart of the Alien, Silpheed) froze at the Sega logo screen. Is there any fixable reason that would happen, or is it just a case of a bad ISO?
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Post by Niode »

Leave the games zipped in your roms folder.
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Niode hits the nail on its head. NeoRageX is a fantastic little emulator, I highly recommend it for low power pcs.
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Well, it seems I've still not gotten it right yet. I tried both emulators again, this time not unzipping the roms when I moved them to the roms folder. With Nebula, it gave an error message saying it couldn't find a rom, then says "One or more roms are missing or different, continue?" When I click yes, it seems like it's going to start as the rom title is now on the top of the window, but all I get is a black (or occasionally a blue or green) screen. In the case of one rom, it crashed right after a green screen came up.

With NeoRage, I couldn't even test it, as when I booted it up it gives me this,
"Unable to load Neo Geo Bios from Neo-Geo.rom".

I have no idea what it wants from me here.
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Post by indecks »

Look for a file called neogeo.zip on the net. It contains the NeoGeo's hardware BIOS which are required for the games to run. Put neogeo.zip in the same folders as your ROMs folder, and the games should run fine in any emulator.
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Post by REPO Man »

I use WinKawaks, cuz it can play CPS1, CPS2 and NeoGeo games.

I wish that they'd port it to other systems (especially GP2X for when I get it and especially for the DreamCast).
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Post by Elwood »

Okay, this is just getting tiresome.

After browsing a bit I downloaded the Neo Geo bios file and tried again, using the two emulators from before.

NeoRage, despite being supposedly the best Neo Geo emulator, doesn't even seem to recognize that the bios file is in the same folder as it, since it keeps giving me a message saying "Unable to load Neo Geo Bios from Neo-Geo.rom". So then I tried Nebula.

At first it seems to be working okay. Aero Fighters 2 loaded up (though it did give an error message before it did) and seemingly played fine. A few others (such as Baseball Stars 2 and Blue's Journey) worked fine. But then there were ones that didn't. When I tried to load Aero Fighters 3, it gave me a long list of things that couldn't be found (ex: 097-c1.bin, 097-c2.bin could not be found), and while it did load, I couldn't see my sprite or my gunfire. This problem happened with a few others (namely Blazing Star), and a few others just rattled off a list of 'bins' that couldn't be found and crashed the emulator (Art of Fighting, Magician Lord).

This is just annoying. If it's this hard just to get it to work on the PC, I can't imagine how it'd be to try and get it to work on something else. I don't know if I downloaded a Bios that didn't have everything I needed (though I downloaded several and I got the same results), or if it's an emulator issue, or something else. I still don't know why NeoRage wouldn't load. Also, I find it annoying that you have to set the controls for Nebula for each game, that might be useful to customize it for each game, but it's tiresome if you have a lot of roms.




On a side note, I'm thinking that the Sega CD issues I mentioned earlier might be a BIOs thing as well. Despite the fact that several of the roms work fine, some just freeze at the Sega logo, and one didn't load at all. I'm not sure if there's a better set of bios out there.
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Post by indecks »

First of all NeoRageX is very old and probably won't run some of the larger or newer games. I'm not sure on that as I haven't used it in about 4 years, but just get Kawaks. I don't understand why you're having so many issues, emulators as a whole are completely painless and easy to run.

1. Get Kawaks as your emulator.

2 .Unzip (or install) Kawaks into whatever folder, as an example:

c:\emulators\arcade\Kawaks

3. In the Kawaks folder, make a ROMs folder

c:\emulators\arcade\Kawaks\ROMs

4. Download your Neo geo roms from your favorite spot, put them and neogeo.zip in the ROMs folder.

5. Run the games.


Don't unzip any of them. Just put the zip files in the ROMs folder and run the games. That's really all there is to it. If you have a *really* old computer, like 6 or 7 years old, then you might have issues, but otherwise, I think you're making it harder than it really is.
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Post by Elwood »

I don't particularly appreciate the "making it harder then it is", because I followed your new instructions with Kawacks... and it still gives me errors and doesn't work. I did exactly as you said, and when I tried to load ANY of games, I get something like

'Couldn't find 031-p1.bin (d396c9cb) for game, ERROR.

My laptop is only 2 years old at most. I'm running Window Vista if that means anything, though I don't see why that'd be the case since all of my other emulators work fine on it. I don't know.

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Post by Pulsar_t »

http://mameicons.free.fr/mame32p/download.htm

Try Mame Plus! from the site above. Place all the zips inside the roms folder (make certain that you run mamepgui.exe at least once then quit before doing so), and the GUI will audit for all ROMs and display correct ones. Are the roms you have dumped to comply with MAME 0.1+? Some sites haven't updated their sets in yonks. I'm not going to promote any site that offers them shady roms so Google is your friend (everyone does it but they mostly keep it private).

MAME authors are taking their time with 3D hardware, but most 2D boards (yes even CPS3) are emulated nicely and would run full-speed on five year old PCs! But it's not newbie-friendly so Mame Plus is a decent GUI to get you started. I wish it had a wizard though!
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