25 Annoying Things About NON-Gamers

[lordofduct]

Screw that, my kids getting an ass beating

Neither my wife nor I have ever laid a finger on our children and they are extremely well behaved. There are other ways. The key is to set limits and then be firm and consistent within those limits. Not only that, but you need to model appropriate behaviors and actually teach your children how to act. Doling out physical punishment as a consequence is lazy parenting.

Bah, I wouldn't call it lazy. And I also wouldn't call it my only consequence.

But in certain scenarios it is one of the greatest bring downs on a child. I'm not talking punch him in the face and bloodiness. I'm talking a good ol' spankin!

If you think different, don't call me lazy... I do what so many people have done for many a years extremely effectively! It's not lazy, it's effective.

A proper raising is a well balance of:

stern governing
spankin'
intellectual fostering (reading to the child, bringing them around with you and showing them how to do stuff like work on the house)
rules struck in stone that even you follow along side the child... no cussing in the house? Well that means no cussing for the parents as well
a giving amount of freedom by allowing them to choose what to do with specific amounts of time of leisure... i.e. you get Saturday to run around outside... I don't care what you do, just don't kill yourself.


Gets you ready, in the real world you screw up you might actually get something worse then a spanking. Better get ready! You ain't special!

[xraydash]

If you think different, don't call me lazy... I do what so many people have done for many a years extremely effectively! It's not lazy, it's effective.

You offer lots of additional strategies so kudos for that. However, arguing corporal punishment is okay because of tradition is definitely lazy. And are you so sure it's effective? I've taught plenty of kids who would get whuppins' at home for getting in trouble at school and it didn't change their behavior one iota. My own parents spanked me as a child and I promise you it never factored into any of the future choices I made either.

You're saying all this before you actually have children so it's conjecture at this point. You may be singing a different tune when the time comes. For now I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Anyway, back to the topic- The only ones that really resonated with me were #9 and #14. My dad to this day still asks if we're "winning" and refers to all video games as "Nintendo."

[lordofduct]

sorry if I didn't roll out with all the reasons for my "personal opinion and choice". I don't have to, it's my choice, and isn't wrong no matter any one else wants to think. There is no where that it says I am not aloud to do it, nor am I convinced it "harms" a child in any manner.

Remember I never said you have to hit your kids, I just said I will spank mine.

I don't know about you, or anyone else. But every time I got an ass whooping for something, I thought twice next time. My own personal proof for me to say I'm going to continue doing it:

I come from a large family spanning across a decade in age difference. The earlier kids up until me were whooped when they screwed up, the kids younger then me weren't. Now compare the kids older then me to the younger ones and we get:

older:
employed, graduated high school, work very hard for themselves, and support themselves with out having to ask anyone for assistance.

younger (not whooped):
lazy, annoying, can't hold a job, all failed out of highschool, can't support themselves with out asking for assistance.

I find myself to be an upstanding, relatively personable, member of society worth something to the community. My younger siblings... I love em', but come on. They can't tie their own shoes with out a pat on the back!




I was whooped, my father was whooped, his father was whooped. We all grew up to be financially stable worthy members of society that could take care of our own and family! My father by 21 years of age owned 3 businesses and owned 2 homes. My grandfather the same, and his parents mailed him away to Florida at the age of 8 because "we don't have room for you in the house". By the time I was 21 I owned my own house and I am self sufficient.

And I guarantee all three of us warrant partial credit to the ass whoopings in our past. It may seem a bit old school, but hey, I grew up on farm and on welfare as a child. A smack was the least of my worries! I didn't move with my father until much later in my life, up until then I was a disjointed misfit doing all kinds of drugs, getting arrested every week, and faced going to juvey due to my wrap sheet of 21 misdameanors and 2 felonies... and I was only 14! Step in my pops, his might fist of reasoning, and his hard work ethics... and only 2 years later of working on a tractor trailer with a tie down bar to the back of the head... and I was fit for society!

From strife and struggle comes power and determination. A respect for one's self that can not be easily crushed by the woes of society.

[xraydash]

I was prepared to move on but... There are a whole lot of flaws in your justification of corporal punishment, not the least of which is "I'm going to inflict physical pain on my child as an unrelated consequence of his or her actions because that's how it's been done for generations in my family and look at all the solid citizens we've churned out." At least you're keeping an open mind about disciplining these children you don't even have yet.

[lordofduct]

if you were prepared to move on you wouldn't be belittling my own personal belief system.

That'd be like me saying, "you are foolish due to all the flaws in Christianity" (not saying you are Christian, just an example). It's rude... I didn't say you were wrong for not doing it, nor was I saying I was right. It is my choice! and I am done. Tootles.

[xraydash]

if you were prepared to move on you wouldn't be belittling my own personal belief system.

That'd be like me saying, "you are foolish due to all the flaws in Christianity" (not saying you are Christian, just an example). It's rude... I didn't say you were wrong for not doing it, nor was I saying I was right. It is my choice! and I am done. Tootles.

If you were a racist or a homophobe I wouldn't hesitate to "belittle" your belief system in those cases either. It's not rude to speak out against practices you find reprehensible. I expect you'd do the same if it were an issue you felt strongly about. Tootles indeed.

[lordofduct]

wow... yes, because spanking my kids behind for stealing candy from the local store or something is SO much like racism or homophobia.

[xraydash]

wow... yes, because spanking my kids behind for stealing candy from the local store or something is SO much like racism or homophobia.

Whatever, man. This is beyond stupid. You compared my finding fault with your arguments to trashing Christianity. Is that the same as taking you to task for proudly spouting off about how you're going to smack your kids around to get them to behave? Uh, no. I'm sure we could one-up each other 'til the cows come home but I'm bored with the whole discussion.

[Niode]

I'd just like to say, even though I believe in firm discipline, I would only ever use corporal punishment as a last resort. I was only hit twice when I was a child. Once because I swore at my mother, and the second time was because I swore at my dad. Put it this way I never stepped out of line after that point. The mere raise of a hand in lieu of 'spanking' was enough to deter me from doing anything I'd regret.

My parent's were from the psychological school of parenting. If I didn't do my homework, they'd make me do it twice (I.e., tearing it up and forcing me to start again). If I back talked to my parents, I was sent to the back-bedroom (with none of my toys in fyi) and told to sit cross-legged in the middle of the floor, in complete silence for an hour. Hours were hella long when you were a kid!!

I hated my parents at the time, but I'm grateful for discipline it learnt me. I was a very well behaved child when I was young as a result.

I don't see how there's anything wrong with a firm hand in raising kids. It sure as hell beats screaming at them in the supermarket... I feel like slapping the mother when she's trying to get her kids to calm down by screaming and swearing at them. What kind of an example is that?

[Pingfa]

Pingfa agrees with Xraydash on this matter; and there is absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone's opinions, nor calling them out on it. Heck, I'd be insulted if you didn't.
If it were effective, Pingfa would use it regardless of moral issues. It'd be for their own good. Pingfa knows of no instance in which this was effective. It might shut them up for the time, but when they're out of your hands, they're out of your hands; and they know it.

Anyhow, Pingfa didn't want to address this matter further but figured as it carried on, he might as well provide some justification for disagreeing. I don't wish to continue the discussion further here, but feel I should throw this out there for future reference.

Back on subject now, the worst case scenario, for me personally, is when I've gotten so far into a game, I'm in 'the zone' if you will, all is going fine and dandy... then some loud mouth drunkards come in, mumbling, laughing, spurting out nonsense. Suddenly I'm out of the zone; everything goes downhill. It's the same with movies - I hate having to pause or stop a movie when I've already become immersed with it, or turn it off, because then I always feel the need to watch the whole thing again.
Course, that's always a problem anyhow, it's just amplified when you're drunk.