BoringSupreez can I show you something real quick?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817151086
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811154109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822236069
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820145356
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819106001
Same specs, or higher in some cases ... much better quality components ... $383.93
Add Windows and it's $484. Which is still less and better quality components and some components are higher spec (Higher ram capcity ... and the APU is unlocked with a higher spec GPU component). And this can still be upgraded ... though you'd be locked into APUs, you can still add a GPU later.
Just take a look.
Also, 30fps is a lofty goal at native monitor resolutions with a low-range machine. (Not using native resolutions would be a very unpleasant experience.)
Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this one
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Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
Why hasn't anyone asked him about using some of his current parts? If he as the GT 520 and it's PCI-e, then it's a safe bet he already has at least a SATA2 Hard drive.
Use that for storage and save a bit of money. My $.02 is that you spring for an SSD to boot from though. One of the single best speed upgrades you can do.
Also, if you're savvy, you can build a killer rig on the cheap by maximizing the parts you buy. Buy an AMD X3 and compatible mobo, and unlock the 4th core. Find a used GTX 465 and flash the bios to a GTX 470. (there are similar things you can do with team Red's cards)
just some food for thought.
Use that for storage and save a bit of money. My $.02 is that you spring for an SSD to boot from though. One of the single best speed upgrades you can do.
Also, if you're savvy, you can build a killer rig on the cheap by maximizing the parts you buy. Buy an AMD X3 and compatible mobo, and unlock the 4th core. Find a used GTX 465 and flash the bios to a GTX 470. (there are similar things you can do with team Red's cards)
just some food for thought.
Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
Assuming that he has a pre-built already, the only thing really worth salvaging would be the hard drive and he clearly wants something more voluminous. Again, it's hard to find benchmarks on that particular APU, but I doubt that the 520 would be a significant upgrade and he's buying a new computer because he wants to run games better, not the same.
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The way the thread was presented. He came in talking about a new PC from the ground up ... he said he needs all the parts and a case when asked, so.
To note, I'm not really suggesting those parts in my last post, it's just an example of why pre-built should never be a serious option when folks want a new system. It just costs more.
The issue with GeForce cards is ... if you want to run games at all ... you need x50 level or higher. The x20, x30, x40 chipsets ... just aren't made to run games. They don't have the required registers and cores required. It has nothing to do with speed or memory capacity.
The lowest you could get away with it is a 540, maybe. But you're still not going to have a very pleasant time.
At the very least, the Radeon 65550D meets recommended specs for most games released before 2012.
The lack of dedicated video memory, on the other hand, would be a big problem.
To note, I'm not really suggesting those parts in my last post, it's just an example of why pre-built should never be a serious option when folks want a new system. It just costs more.
The issue with GeForce cards is ... if you want to run games at all ... you need x50 level or higher. The x20, x30, x40 chipsets ... just aren't made to run games. They don't have the required registers and cores required. It has nothing to do with speed or memory capacity.
The lowest you could get away with it is a 540, maybe. But you're still not going to have a very pleasant time.
At the very least, the Radeon 65550D meets recommended specs for most games released before 2012.
The lack of dedicated video memory, on the other hand, would be a big problem.
Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
sabrage wrote:Assuming that he has a pre-built already, the only thing really worth salvaging would be the hard drive and he clearly wants something more voluminous. Again, it's hard to find benchmarks on that particular APU, but I doubt that the 520 would be a significant upgrade and he's buying a new computer because he wants to run games better, not the same.
I think you misunderstood what I said. I wasn't saying he should use the GT 520. I think he deff. needs a video card upgrade. I was using that as a reference point as to what hardware might be in his current system. The 520 is a PCI-e card, so it's safe to assume he probably has a SATA2 drive at the very least.
I know that someone has already mentioned it, but an AMD APU and Radeon dedicated card in X-Fire is a decent setup on the cheap. Something to definitely look into.
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Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
That would have been me. I believe you can only crossfire the 6500 series with a APU, should still be decent. Did the last one he listed even come with a GPU?pvt_awol wrote:sabrage wrote:Assuming that he has a pre-built already, the only thing really worth salvaging would be the hard drive and he clearly wants something more voluminous. Again, it's hard to find benchmarks on that particular APU, but I doubt that the 520 would be a significant upgrade and he's buying a new computer because he wants to run games better, not the same.
I think you misunderstood what I said. I wasn't saying he should use the GT 520. I think he deff. needs a video card upgrade. I was using that as a reference point as to what hardware might be in his current system. The 520 is a PCI-e card, so it's safe to assume he probably has a SATA2 drive at the very least.
I know that someone has already mentioned it, but an AMD APU and Radeon dedicated card in X-Fire is a decent setup on the cheap. Something to definitely look into.
What I should have by the end of this year for any one interested.
(already own this)
http://www.asus.com/Desktop/Entertainme ... ifications
Plus upgrades
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814150560 or sapphire equivalent GPU, hoping to run games like skyrim and Guild wars 2, maybe a 6850 if I can afford it by then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817151095
should leave about 100 extra watts or so if I ever upgrade later
Plus a Athlon II X2 at 2.8Ghz, 4 GB of ram. 750GB hard drive, Asus M4 motherboard. Plus the monitor(HP) which is 20 inches at 1600X900 resolution. Around 650 in total. Had to get a pre-built quickly because of college. Made sure I can upgrade it though. Still would have been cheaper to build my own though.
Was able to save the 60 dollar Altec Lansing sound system I had been using on my laptop and the Microsoft brand gaming mouse.
Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
HOLY CRAP!sabrage wrote:I take it you already ordered that second model, BoringSupreez? This seems like a phenomenal deal to me.
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Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
I haven't purchased anything yet... from the same site, what do you guys think of this one?
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Re: Planning on getting new PC - tell me wat u think of this
I think it's a three year old CPU in a four year old motherboard.BoringSupreez wrote:I haven't purchased anything yet... from the same site, what do you guys think of this one?
Does leave you a lot of budget to drop a good GPU in, which will in turn run most anything on the market today (extra RAM couldn't hurt either). I wouldn't expect *too* much from the integrated GPU from the 780G. The motherboard I have in my HTPC (which I built in 2008) has one, and it does do half decently with well written engines in older games (handles UT2004 nicely for example), but terrible for more modern titles.
It's not something I would get if you were willing to spend a bit more, but if you're looking to get something really cheap you could certainly do worse. Personally, I would try to build around a socket 1156 or 1155 instead of AMD, and try to fit an i5 into the budget. But that'll cost more.