Is the audio on this really that freaking good?
the prices on these are jacked, and i personally have one myself but i never really bothered to test it out compared to other cd players,
but people are really putting alot of hype into this, why?
can anybody confirm this? is it really better and top of the line?
here is an example of one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/HIGH-END-AUDIOPHILE ... dZViewItem
What is up with these AUDIOPHILE SCPH-1001 Playstation 1s?
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HA, no... it actually sucks. I'm not sure where the rumour started, I think it started because a lot of the first PS1 were used as CD-Players.
Anyway, for 5-10 bucks... yeah it's a good CD-Player. 50 bucks, yeah right. Audiophile level quality? Ummm... I guarantee there isn't an audiophile out there that will say that.
I've even read of this rumour in one of my stereo equipment mags. I think it was "The PerfectVision", not sure. Can't find it right now, to many mags sitting around to hunt for it. I do remember the guy comparing it to a Sony CD-Player, a Denon, and a Marantz. The Sony was a cheapy and they said it sounded better then that if you used good cables, but the Denon and Marantz owned it like now other. To boot the awful user interface made it more cumbersome and annoying.
Personally from my own testing, the SegaCD sounds better then the PS1 in my honest opinion.
Anyway, for 5-10 bucks... yeah it's a good CD-Player. 50 bucks, yeah right. Audiophile level quality? Ummm... I guarantee there isn't an audiophile out there that will say that.
I've even read of this rumour in one of my stereo equipment mags. I think it was "The PerfectVision", not sure. Can't find it right now, to many mags sitting around to hunt for it. I do remember the guy comparing it to a Sony CD-Player, a Denon, and a Marantz. The Sony was a cheapy and they said it sounded better then that if you used good cables, but the Denon and Marantz owned it like now other. To boot the awful user interface made it more cumbersome and annoying.
Personally from my own testing, the SegaCD sounds better then the PS1 in my honest opinion.
Audiophiles are idiots, that's all. They'll pay hundreds of dollars for fancy cables with gold interconnects when a stretch of coat hanger does the job just as well. For people who claim to care about audio, they don't know the first thing about the physics behind it. Hell, Denon even sells a $500 ethernet cable for digital speakers (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp). It really brings out the nuances in the 1s and 0s.
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HAHAHA
thanks Hatta.
I will admit, I consider myself an Audiophile... but a lot of the audiophiles I meet don't know anything they're talking about and just blow money on high end shit not knowing what they are actually getting. That's why I intelligently assess what it is I'm purchasing and weigh out if the extra cost actually gives me an increase in quality of sound... and if that increase is actually worth it to me.
As for those multi-hundred dollar interconnects. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah, right... I have one cable that is worth 200 dollars, I got it for free. You would never see me buy them though.
... Audiophile I hate - the ones who thing I'm stupid for listening to my iPod.. "Mp3's have crappy sound, and every time it's shared it degrades."
WHAT!? ok, now... you don't know what a digital transfer consists of do you?
thanks Hatta.
I will admit, I consider myself an Audiophile... but a lot of the audiophiles I meet don't know anything they're talking about and just blow money on high end shit not knowing what they are actually getting. That's why I intelligently assess what it is I'm purchasing and weigh out if the extra cost actually gives me an increase in quality of sound... and if that increase is actually worth it to me.
As for those multi-hundred dollar interconnects. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah, right... I have one cable that is worth 200 dollars, I got it for free. You would never see me buy them though.
... Audiophile I hate - the ones who thing I'm stupid for listening to my iPod.. "Mp3's have crappy sound, and every time it's shared it degrades."
WHAT!? ok, now... you don't know what a digital transfer consists of do you?
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For the most part, we are idiots., but with good taste. I would say the vast majority of audiophiles aren't filthy rich. We make out own cables (not just to sound better, but for neatness, correct lengths, custom looks etc.) from parts available at Parts Express. It's not just the physics either. I'm sure the Denon would be better as it has better built DACs, cleaner power supplies, better filters etc.Hatta wrote:Audiophiles are idiots, that's all. They'll pay hundreds of dollars for fancy cables with gold interconnects when a stretch of coat hanger does the job just as well. For people who claim to care about audio, they don't know the first thing about the physics behind it. Hell, Denon even sells a $500 ethernet cable for digital speakers (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp). It really brings out the nuances in the 1s and 0s.
As far as the $500.00 cable for digital, that's dumb. Same with people buying high priced HDMI cables when the $6.00 ones from monoprice.com are the same ones in the package for $75.00. Digital is either go, or no go.
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I'm kind of an audiophile, but I guess I'm not a rich one. I can't justify spending the money they normally do. If I can't hear flaws in my setup, then some fuckers on the internet aren't going to convince me that I do. There are very cheap, very effective general rules you can take to have a good sounding setup, and the people who buy "Monster" brand and other overpriced douchebag products have no idea what they're talking about. Monster uses large fancy mumbo jumbo that actually makes no sense to those who understand that level of terminology, and their items look more like lunar jump ropes than audio cables. They have 5 "speed levels" of HDMI cables! What the hell?! So bogus.
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I'm a professional audio engineer. Audiophiles are hard to define. Most people that are called audiophiles are just really rich guys who can afford custom engineered sound equipment. They don't have any taste or business judging the quality of any sound equipment. The real "audiophiles" are the companies that make the gear and the installers that tune it.
Most of the insanely high end gear does have advantages. The quality is so high now that only an engineers ear or metering equipment can tell the difference. I'm lucky enough to mix on a Genelec 2.1 system in the studio. I've also configured a few McIntosh systems with $1000 interconnect cables at every stage. The difference between my high end studio monitors and the McIntosh gear was stunning. I guess my point is most people who produce music and audio content don't work on systems that good.
Most of the insanely high end gear does have advantages. The quality is so high now that only an engineers ear or metering equipment can tell the difference. I'm lucky enough to mix on a Genelec 2.1 system in the studio. I've also configured a few McIntosh systems with $1000 interconnect cables at every stage. The difference between my high end studio monitors and the McIntosh gear was stunning. I guess my point is most people who produce music and audio content don't work on systems that good.
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I love audio in my games and music, but I refuse to pay more than $10 for an AV cable. It simply isn't worth the investment. However, as cheap as I am, I still managed to get myself an awesome set up. (My AV amp was several hundred dolars new, I think, and I got it free.)
The point is that if you only need the audio quality that you're willing to pay for to be happy.
The point is that if you only need the audio quality that you're willing to pay for to be happy.
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