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BurningDoom wrote:Why are we seeing 1-on-1 matches less and less in wrestling. 3-way matches, battle royales, non-established tag-teams in tag-team battles, tournaments, etc. are all almost expected nowadays. And then the few 1-on-1 matches we do see get interfered in (which yeah, that's a wrestling tradition, but it used to be that just many ended clean as were interfered in, that's not the case anymore).

I like a good one-on-one match, especially if it's a great rivalry, And when it's a great rivalry, and the match ends clean, that's even better IMO.

Just a random thought.
I'd attribute the lack of clean finishes to WWE not wanting anyone to 'go over' anyone else except at a PPV. Otherwise, the only 1 on 1 finishes we tend to see are squashes. The midcard feuds are completely non-existent, and there's no way you're going to see Sheamus or John Cena get pinned clean by anyone on TV.

It's somewhat frustrating to know that none of the "good" matches will ever end cleanly, but that's what WWE has become at this point.
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NesimLE wrote:
BurningDoom wrote:Why are we seeing 1-on-1 matches less and less in wrestling. 3-way matches, battle royales, non-established tag-teams in tag-team battles, tournaments, etc. are all almost expected nowadays. And then the few 1-on-1 matches we do see get interfered in (which yeah, that's a wrestling tradition, but it used to be that just many ended clean as were interfered in, that's not the case anymore).

I like a good one-on-one match, especially if it's a great rivalry, And when it's a great rivalry, and the match ends clean, that's even better IMO.

Just a random thought.
I'd attribute the lack of clean finishes to WWE not wanting anyone to 'go over' anyone else except at a PPV. Otherwise, the only 1 on 1 finishes we tend to see are squashes. The midcard feuds are completely non-existent, and there's no way you're going to see Sheamus or John Cena get pinned clean by anyone on TV.

It's somewhat frustrating to know that none of the "good" matches will ever end cleanly, but that's what WWE has become at this point.
Is it just me, or did WWE wrestling used to be more heel dominant years ago? Now and days it always seem like the babyfaces have the upper hand, with the heels usually being the underdogs in every single feud

What ever happened to the days of heel Triple H owning everyone on Raw? Maybe it's less of an indication of the current state of wrestling and more an indication that Triple H always puts himself over everyone else no matter what role he plays.

I really hate watching any show that makes the good guys the dominant force. I think good drama only is accomplished when evil always has the upper hand and good is always hanging by a thread. John Cena should be the guy who can beat any midcarder, but is always the underdog in any feud involving a main event heel. That would make wrestling so much more interesting. This is why I loved Mark Henry's huge heel push last year. He dominated everyone, even making a guy like Randy Orton seem like the underdog in their feud.

when most shows come close to their season finales, we see the good guys struggling against a powerful enemy, and we hope to see them win in the finale, or prepare ourselves for the worst case scenario and the possibility of one or more people getting killed off. Wrestling just doesn't play by the same rules as other entertainment. It's actually a big surprise when the heel defeats the babyface cleanly. Instead we get BS victories like count outs, disqualifications, and other crap that just makes heels look like weak, little bitches trying to beat faces that are way out of their league.

I HATE THAT!!!!

There's no real drama in wrestling anymore
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Agreed with the above. Now that I think about it, other than Daniel Bryan, there really isn't a single heel who is a credible threat to take the title off of either champion. They used to allow the bad guys long runs with the title, so it was that much more satisfying when the face finally broke through and won. Now it's like the complete reverse. I remember being shocked when Mark Henry actually beat Randy Orton clean for the title.

It might have something to do with making John Cena the unbeatable face of WWE...therefore the only reason a heel ever holds a title is so John Cena can "Never Give Up" all over them until he wins it back. Quite frustrating considering most of my favorite guys are heels (Bryan, Ziggler, Rhodes for example.)
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You guys think we'll see Randy Orton in TNA this year?
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Gamerforlife wrote:You guys think we'll see Randy Orton in TNA this year?
Why? Did you hear he was fired? I know he was recently suspended for Wellness Violation, but I heard it was his 2nd strike, so he still has one left, I thought.
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BurningDoom wrote:
Gamerforlife wrote:You guys think we'll see Randy Orton in TNA this year?
Why? Did you hear he was fired? I know he was recently suspended for Wellness Violation, but I heard it was his 2nd strike, so he still has one left, I thought.
The rumors are that they are considering firing him. The fear being that he may be going back to the old Randy Orton, who was always getting into trouble and pissing off the higher ups in the company. He'd make a good example too for other potential wellness policy breakers. I doubt they'll do it, but apparently it's been considered
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I'm so thoroughly burnt out on the WWE right now. I thought the AJ stuff on last night's Raw was entertaining enough and I like the promos Big Show's been dropping, but my overall feeling towards the WWE right now is apathy. I can honestly say that I've never been less interested in their product as I am right now. I'm barely even keeping up for the past two weeks. I haven't even really watched last week's raw or smackdown yet.

Seeing Vince on last night's Raw, I really just wanted to see someone beat the shit out of that stupid old man, and I mean, for real
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It's been said a million times, but damn I miss this Cena
Hard to believe that it's been almost 9 years...
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Gamerforlife wrote:I'm so thoroughly burnt out on the WWE right now. I thought the AJ stuff on last night's Raw was entertaining enough and I like the promos Big Show's been dropping, but my overall feeling towards the WWE right now is apathy. I can honestly say that I've never been less interested in their product as I am right now. I'm barely even keeping up for the past two weeks. I haven't even really watched last week's raw or smackdown yet.

Seeing Vince on last night's Raw, I really just wanted to see someone beat the shit out of that stupid old man, and I mean, for real
Isn't it unreal how Cena can blow any angle or story by just coming out and goofing around like it's no big deal?

And then after his Wrestlemania "I HAVE TO WIN" stuff, he jokes with Vince (again) that his loss was no big deal. He is the worst character-wise out there.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud his work outside the ring, but I can't wait for the day he's not the "ratings" draw and has to be on every single episode with the same shtick.
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Menegrothx wrote:It's been said a million times, but damn I miss this Cena
Hard to believe that it's been almost 9 years...
Both Cenas suck.
Gamerforlife wrote:I'm so thoroughly burnt out on the WWE right now. I thought the AJ stuff on last night's Raw was entertaining enough and I like the promos Big Show's been dropping, but my overall feeling towards the WWE right now is apathy. I can honestly say that I've never been less interested in their product as I am right now. I'm barely even keeping up for the past two weeks. I haven't even really watched last week's raw or smackdown yet.

Seeing Vince on last night's Raw, I really just wanted to see someone beat the shit out of that stupid old man, and I mean, for real
I agree on the apathy towards WWE. It's like it doesn't even matter if you watch anymore because nothing is gonna change anyways. And that's what I hate about the WWE anymore. Back in the day it was just the opposite. You had to tune in every week, and you were glued to the screen because you never knew what was gonna happen next or who was gonna appear.

But hating on Vince? Really? Why? He was one of the best onscreen villains wrestling has ever seen, and behind the scenes he was arguably the biggest mastermind behind the 80s wrestling boom and had a big part in the 90s wrestling boom.
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