Lifestyles of the gaming and loaferous

[flojocabron]

Busom jack.

why dont you make an article (serious not trolling) on games that use exercise as a medium for gaming?

Plenty of DDR, wii fits, SNES exercise bikes, EA active.... on and on.

You can take the hard core approach and someone else can take the newbie look at it.

make a regimen or something. Cause not many here are able (or want) to play physical games in the long haul. Motivate the everyguy/gamer into working out via videogames.

Use your expertise to your advantage and make us "PUNY GAMERS" pump it up

I think you can do it.

*EDIT* woah PHANTOM TELEPORT!

[KDub]

because a sedentary lifestyle kills far FAR more people than over-exercise ever did.

No you are wrong.
And in fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedentary_lifestyle

However those that exercise at least 5 hours per week gets a health just as good as those that sit less than 4 hours per day.[3][4]

Having a life that is less active and more mentally stimulating is not simply unhealthy in comparison. Yes going to the extreme and not balancing out at all is bad. But that middle ground isn't suddenly fatal.

If you are going to go to the extreme of the stereotype so will I. The comparison comes if the person goes to one extreme or the other.

[Busomjack]

Busom jack.

why dont you make an article (serious not trolling) on games that use exercise as a medium for gaming?

Plenty of DDR, wii fits, SNES exercise bikes, EA active.... on and on.

You can take the hard core approach and someone else can take the newbie look at it.

make a regimen or something. Cause not many here are able (or want) to play physical games in the long haul. Motivate the everyguy/gamer into working out via videogames.

Use your expertise to your advantage and make us "PUNY GAMERS" pump it up

I think you can do it.

Problem I have with a lot of fitness games is that they put too much of an emphasis on cardio. Cardio-respiratory endurance is an essential component of fitness but doing that exclusively and neglecting resistance training can actually have a catabolic effect on the body which can lower your metabolism and reduce your bone and muscle density.
There are calisthenics but the majority of examples are only good for beginners.

I won't condemn them of course but I don't think they should be seen as a replacement for free weights. It should be fair to mention that outside of Wii fit I haven't played many fitness games.

Also, many gamers aren't puny. Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHaDsqKZ-gM

[Busomjack]

because a sedentary lifestyle kills far FAR more people than over-exercise ever did.

No you are wrong.
And in fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedentary_lifestyle

However those that exercise at least 5 hours per week gets a health just as good as those that sit less than 4 hours per day.[3][4]

Having a life that is less active and more mentally stimulating is not simply unhealthy in comparison. Yes going to the extreme and not balancing out at all is bad. But that middle ground isn't suddenly fatal.

If you are going to go to the extreme of the stereotype so will I. The comparison comes if the person goes to one extreme or the other.

Did you miss this part in the article you posted?

A lack of physical activity is one of the leading causes of preventable death worldwide.[2]

Sitting still may cause premature death. The risk is higher among those that sit still more than 4 hours per day. It is shown to be a risk factor on its own independent of hard exercise and BMI. The more still, the higher risk of chronic diseases. People that sit still more than 11 hours per day has a 40 times higher risk than those that sat less than 4 hours per day. However those that exercise at least 5 hours per week gets a health just as good as those that sit less than 4 hours per day.[3][4]


A sedentary lifestyle and lack of physical activity can contribute to or be a risk factor for:

Anxiety[5][6][7]
Cardiovascular disease[8][9]
Mortality in elderly men by 30% and double the risk in elderly women[10]
Deep vein thrombosis
Depression[5][7]
Diabetes[5]
Colon cancer[5]
High blood pressure[5][11]
Obesity[12][13]
Osteoporosis[5][14][15]
Lipid disorders[5]
Kidney stones

Also, for the last time I am not advocating any extremes! Resting is absolutely essential for anyone who is engaging in any kind of training routine since your muscles cannot recover or experience any kind of anabolic effect if they're constantly under stress.

Why do you have to make this an argument about overexercise VS no exercise when I never advocated either?

[KDub]

Of course I didn't but that doesn't make the part I quoted any less valid. Yours is once again on the extreme. See how you keep going there?

[Busomjack]

Of course I didn't but that doesn't make the part I quoted any less valid. Yours is once again on the extreme. See how you keep going there?

What am I advocating that's extreme? Do you think I workout 8 hours a day or anything crazy like that? Hell no! I spend probably 8 hours a week at the gym tops and if I were training somebody who was brand new to fitness I wouldn't even dream of reccomending anything more than 3 30 minute workout sessions per week with split routines.

Yeah it's possible to over-do it and screw up. That's part of the reason why personal trainers like me exist.
If you exercise within your limits, make proper progression and use good form though then the health benefits from exercise are tremendous.

[KDub]

I'm having fun

[Busomjack]

If you want to see X-treme though I'll show you X-treme...

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[flojocabron]

Busom jack.

why dont you make an article (serious not trolling) on games that use exercise as a medium for gaming?

Plenty of DDR, wii fits, SNES exercise bikes, EA active.... on and on.

You can take the hard core approach and someone else can take the newbie look at it.

make a regimen or something. Cause not many here are able (or want) to play physical games in the long haul. Motivate the everyguy/gamer into working out via videogames.

Use your expertise to your advantage and make us "PUNY GAMERS" pump it up

I think you can do it.

Problem I have with a lot of fitness games is that they put too much of an emphasis on cardio. Cardio-respiratory endurance is an essential component of fitness but doing that exclusively and neglecting resistance training can actually have a catabolic effect on the body which can lower your metabolism and reduce your bone and muscle density.
There are calisthenics but the majority of examples are only good for beginners.

I won't condemn them of course but I don't think they should be seen as a replacement for free weights. It should be fair to mention that outside of Wii fit I haven't played many fitness games.

Also, many gamers aren't puny. Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHaDsqKZ-gM

many of us are beginners. You may be right, games are more cardio based. But when you work out, you shouldnt just use weights. Stretching and other light exercise is needed. One doesnt simply do weights right?

Someone could use a game for about 20 minutes and then move one to some dumbells and or kettleballs.

The act of exercising is getting it done period. Some of us procrastinate and when the time comes we make up an excuse not to.

We need that first push. Not pushed into it full blast, but a simple start that would then lead to bigger things.

An exercising videogame may be that first step for some people.

[Busomjack]

Busom jack.

why dont you make an article (serious not trolling) on games that use exercise as a medium for gaming?

Plenty of DDR, wii fits, SNES exercise bikes, EA active.... on and on.

You can take the hard core approach and someone else can take the newbie look at it.

make a regimen or something. Cause not many here are able (or want) to play physical games in the long haul. Motivate the everyguy/gamer into working out via videogames.

Use your expertise to your advantage and make us "PUNY GAMERS" pump it up

I think you can do it.

Problem I have with a lot of fitness games is that they put too much of an emphasis on cardio. Cardio-respiratory endurance is an essential component of fitness but doing that exclusively and neglecting resistance training can actually have a catabolic effect on the body which can lower your metabolism and reduce your bone and muscle density.
There are calisthenics but the majority of examples are only good for beginners.

I won't condemn them of course but I don't think they should be seen as a replacement for free weights. It should be fair to mention that outside of Wii fit I haven't played many fitness games.

Also, many gamers aren't puny. Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHaDsqKZ-gM

many of us are beginners. You may be right, games are more cardio based. But when you work out, you shouldnt just use weights. Stretching and other light exercise is needed. One doesnt simply do weights right?

Someone could use a game for about 20 minutes and then move one to some dumbells and or kettleballs.

The act of exercising is getting it done period. Some of us procrastinate and when the time comes we make up an excuse not to.

We need that first push. Not pushed into it full blast, but a simple start that would then lead to bigger things.

An exercising videogame may be that first step for some people.

Possibly, a lot of times I will start a beginner off with calisthenics(body weight exercises) before I move them on to free weights. Fitness games are practically their own genre now so I don't know how the routines look on all of them. I figure if it can help get people into fitness then they'll find that they'll eventually plateau playing the game and then that may inspire them to hit the gym and grab some free weights.
So yeah, I definitely don't oppose their existence. I can assure you though that I could give anyone a better workout than any game could ever provide them.