Games as Addiction

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Re: Games as Addiction

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As a somewhat random opening thought, I wish there was a different word coined for what we call "psychological addiction" as opposed to "physical addiction." The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) does consider things like compulsive gambling as "addictions" right alongside substance dependencies on drugs and alcohol, so I do acknowledge this as the official stance. But I tend to think that "psychological addiction" is better defined as compulsion or obsession, that it is almost always a symptom of some other underlying condition as opposed to a cause within itself, and that it is a totally different beast (although no less disruptive or worthy of treatment) from physical dependencies. As such I wish it had its own unique term.

For instance, one of the links Dsh supplied us with concerned a man whose wife left him because he was "addicted to video games," but from the comments made on the thread concerning the "obscene" amount of stuff he had in his house, the speculations that he could not have gotten any use out of most of his collection, and the "high" he perceived to have in videos made after shopping sprees, it sounds like he was struggling with hoarding/obsessive-compulsive issues or bi-polar disorder. The video games sound less like the root of the problem and more like the vehicle that exposed it. In contrast, if he'd been addicted to cocaine, then cocaine would clearly have been the problem.

I am hardly an expert on these matters, however, and will happily defer to the PhDs we have in-house here!

But regardless of semantics, I have a lot of sympathy for the author of the Diablo story and am seriously impressed that he was able to recognize, confront, and triumph over his problem. Just recognizing a destructive behavior in yourself is worthy of respect. A lot of people don't even get that far.
Menegrothx wrote:Oh yeah, one thing about WoW (and MMORPGs in general) addiction is that you will start to feel guilty when you are not playing the game. Many times I logged in for hours to do absolutely nothing, because I felt like I needed to be in WoW.
I agree. The only time in my history of video games that negatively impacted my social life/mental well-being was when I discovered a MUD called "Legends of Cosrin" when I was in middle school. I'd always been a huge fan of text adventures, so this game was an unbelievably good time -- but it was also the first game I played that kept existing and progressing after I was logged out. With the ever-present awareness that several in-game days were passing while I was in school or eating dinner with my family, I got so stressed out thinking about all that "wasted" time that could have been spent leveling up to keep pace with my friends or taking advantage of time-specific bonuses and events. Then came the afternoon that I invited one of my best friends over to hang out after school just to ask her, "Do you mind if I play Cosrin while you're here?" I played for twenty minutes or so and then felt sick to my stomach for ranking it above my friend in terms of importance. I deleted the program shortly thereafter, and it was like a huge weight had been taken off my shoulders. It also helped me recognize how the fun had been sucked out of the activity long before I'd even noticed there was something wrong.

To this day I'm wary of getting involved with time-sensitive activities for this reason -- and that's not just limited to video games. I dropped off of Facebook several years ago when I realized I felt compelled to constantly log in and keep up with minute-by-minute updates, and I never want a smartphone because I'm afraid the siren song of the internet in my pocket will be too difficult to ignore.
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Re: Games as Addiction

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Take my money
My house and my cars
For one hit of you
You can have it all, baby
Cause playin video games
Everytime I do
it's worse than drugs
Cause i'm an addict over you
And you know that!

I can't leave you alone
You got me feenin (Feenin you got me feenin)
Got me goin crazy
I can't leave you alone
You got me feenin
16 bit i'm feenin for you

Said i'm feenin for you
I don't have a mind
It's all blown on you
Genesis i'm so strung out
All i do is wish for you
So tomorrow if you're not here
Then Dreamcast i'm down
So i need you near
I just wanna make it through the night
So i'll play SNES RPG through the night
Then i know i'm alright

I can't leave you alone
You got me feenin
PS2 you got everything that i need (got everything that i need)
I can't leave you alone
You got me feenin
i'm feenin for you

Arcades i'm hooked on you
There's nothing else i'd rather do
Spend my last dime
For a drop of your time
Cause you're the best port without a doubt
You know you got me strung out
And i need you more (And more)
Cause you are my joy....my joy...mmmah joy.

You got me feenin
You got me feenin
You got me feenin yes you do

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Re: Games as Addiction

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Yeah, I like most of what Hobie said above. For many of us, games are an easy escape. Some people blame a fun game for missing school or getting no sleep. But for me at times, it isn't the game that causes me to do it, but basically any activity I find more enjoyable to work/sleep/school/studying etc... gaming just happens to be one of the top entertainment options. Take it away and it would just be some other activity I found to be more entertainig than my current responsibility.

I think gaming is a convenient vehicle for this type of behavior and not necessarily the root cause.
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I read that Diablo II story and...is that really considered addiction? Seems to me he just really wanted to play the game and had priority problems. That's certainly a destructive problem that needs dealt with, and I've had that problem on smaller scales with various activities. But I don't think of that as addiction. Addiction is when consciously I really, really, DON'T want to be doing an activity anymore, but, I am still doing it due to an almost overpowering urge.
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Re: Games as Addiction

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Thankfully, I've never had a problem. I lack the "additive personality", in fact I seem to be just the opposite. I'm too unfocused and "ADD" to commit to any one task for too long. After playing video games for a couple of hours, even if the game it phenomenal, I will always feel compelled to do something else for awhile instead. I remember one lonely rainy Sunday where I actually did manage to play one game (Tales of Symphonia 2) for seven hours within the span of one day: something like 3 in the morning, 1 after lunch, and 3 in the evening. I called my girlfriend (now my wife) and said, "I can't believe I played video games for seven hours!" She replied, "I can't believe you did anything for seven hours!" :lol:

I'm also one of those people who can't begin a gaming session unless everything else is off my plate, so to speak. Homework's gotta be done, I need to have already exercised for the day, etc... Otherwise I'll just be obsessing about those things while gaming.

I have known a couple of self-proclaimed video game addicts however. First one is my brother. His drug of choice was World of Warcraft, unsurprisingly. Almost broke up his marriage, I remember his wife reaching a breaking point and overhearing her say, "Video games will always be there, but I won't." His wife, my father, and I actually held some kind of mini-intervention to confront him about the problem. My father basically stated that he would be kicked out of the house if he didn't cut back on WoW. That solved the problem for awhile, but he went back to his old ways as soon as he moved out.

To touch on what Menegrothx said, my brother would feel guilty if he wasn't playing WoW. He'd claim that "people were depending on him" and all sorts of other things. He didn't seem to realize that people in the real world were depending on him to do certain things too.

I could write so much more but my work day is about to start. :shock:
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I had an uncle that was obsessed with one of the online games, Everquest I think. He had some sort of heart problems and was on disability (he passed away a few years ago, in his 40's). I recall it being a point of contention in their marriage but never to the point of divorcing or anything. They would just argue about it sometimes. I think for him it was just a way to fill his time. Being unemployed and with limited things he could do due to his heart, I think the game gave him something to do with his time. & I don't think they argued so much over him playing as it was more that it pissed her off that he spent so much $ on all the expansion crap and add-ons.
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Menegrothx wrote:Oh yeah, one thing about WoW (and MMORPGs in general) addiction is that you will start to feel guilty when you are not playing the game. Many times I logged in for hours to do absolutely nothing, because I felt like I needed to be in WoW. Not because there was raid or arena scheduled or that I needed to do something in WoW, I just sat there doing nothing. With daily quests, monthly subscription fees etc, many people complain that the game feels like another job. Any time invested in any other game starts to feel like a waste, when you could have been using that time on improving your character.
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Personally, I think actual psychological addiction to video games is exceptionally rare.

I think far more of us devote inordinate amounts of time to them for other reasons. Escapism, a sense of achievement, being part of a group, that kind of thing. Objectively speaking, lots of hobbies stem from ulterior motives.

My main experience with a gaming "habit" so to speak is with FFXI. I started playing, along with a couple old roommates, about when the game came out in the US (October 2003). Outside of about half of last year, I've played since then. It's probably what I'll be doing tonight :lol:

I can definitely identify with the "default" behavior being to hop online. Over the years, sometimes I've played more heavily, sometimes not. There was a period when I had something or other scheduled in-game five, if not six days out of the week. But, I also haven't gotten to the point where I couldn't say no, or that I was shirking real-life stuff that really had to get done in order to play. Some late nights, or chores put off until the next day? Sure. But that's not behavior unique to playing an MMO.

Still, there was a while when I'd look at a lot of things as something I could/would do if/when I could finally get free of FFXI. Last year though, I did. SE shut down the servers for a month due to the tsunami, and I didn't start playing again for another six months or so after they came back up. Not surprisingly, quitting the game wasn't some magic bullet. I only did a fraction of the stuff I figured I'd do. The real problem was never the game, but my own lack of self-motivation.

My take on it is more that video games in general are an easy out, in both a good and bad sense. Sometimes you need the escape, or to achieve something, even if its a totally made up goal. Poring over loot lists and making builds can scratch the same itch as obsessing over computer parts (or something) with far less real ramifications to my bank account. :P

Problem is more that it's also faster and easier to feel that sense of accomplishment from a game. That's where they become a real problem. Games love to encourage you in order to keep you playing. Life...does not.
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Re: Games as Addiction

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I think its really and truly of factor of whether or not one has an addictive personality. I, personally, do not. There is a guy I know. He was, before getting a girlfriend, extremely addicted to Call of Duty. He was in the top 500 players at one point when Modern Warfare 3 came out. He spent literally a week doing nothing but playing the game. I'd get on, play an hour or two each night, then get off. But he'd be on the next morning, never having gotten off. It was insane. I also know this guy is an addicted alcoholic, without having graduated from highschool yet.

But thats just his personality. Its just how he is.

However, I think that people shouldn't play more than 2 or 3 hours on average. I personally can't without having to do something, generally having to get up and refill water or just walk around more than once during that time. Now, on occasion, I think its alright for a person to splurge and play for seven hours, maybe on a rainy day or a day off or such. However, it shouldn't be a common thing.
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