So.... Some SNESes output YPbPr.....

[elmagicochrisg]

Yes S ENC B. I rewired it 4 times using different gage wire.

Well crap I guess I'm back to the S-Video cable, unless there is a way to alter the signals to the liking of my TV.

Take the console to a friend's house and test it on another screen...

[Drakon]

Here's how I wired up the component video to my 1993 super famicom where the component picture isn't washed out and doesn't have any issues and everything looks how it should. I wired up the three component lines with no parts in between them and the tv, and I wired ground to a random grounded metal area on the side of the snes pcb. None of the legs on the video encoder were lifted.

Nintendo seems to have used a number of different rohm video encoders through the life of the snes. All of the encoders in the model 1 labelled as "s-enc something" or that came on a pcb that wasn't labelled as "something rgb" "something onechip" are pin compatible. However since most of these video encoders were re-labelled nobody is exactly sure just how many different encoders nintendo used.

[Zing]

I just tried this mod, it works. Picture is so clear on my HD Plasma absolutly beautiful, yes the colours were a little faded but nothing I couldn't fix with the TV settings.
However I had a problem, the image is jumpy. Bounces up and down constantly. Any ideas as to why?

Jumpy video with 240p is usually due to the TV not handling it properly.

[Drakon]

For everyone who doesn't believe I know what I'm talking about when I say the snes 2 / onechip snes system has much higher quality video all around:

http://sd2snes.de/blog/archives/75

[marvelus10]

I just tried this mod, it works. Picture is so clear on my HD Plasma absolutly beautiful, yes the colours were a little faded but nothing I couldn't fix with the TV settings.
However I had a problem, the image is jumpy. Bounces up and down constantly. Any ideas as to why?

Jumpy video with 240p is usually due to the TV not handling it properly.

Do you think one of the inexpensive upscalers with HDMI output solve this, are they worth the $50 or so.

[Zing]

Any upscaler that can properly accept 240p input should be able to turn it into 480i/480p at the very least and would solve the problem. I don't know details offhand, but when I was researching converters last year, there were a surprising number that didn't like 240p input.

[Zing]

For everyone who doesn't believe I know what I'm talking about when I say the snes 2 / onechip snes system has much higher quality video all around:

http://sd2snes.de/blog/archives/75

My SNES model 2 is significantly brighter and "whiter" than my original SNES. However, the signal was so strong and so bright, that it caused ghosting on every single television I tried. I tried two Sony CRTs, a Sony LCD, and a Sony rear-projection. They all had easily seen ghosting in games like Super Mario World on levels with bright backgrounds (I believe it was "vanilla bridge" I used to test). Brightness/Contrast settings on the TVs did nothing to alleviate this. It was as if the signal was overdriven.

The whites coming from the model 2 were a little too white. When compared to the whites from, for example, the bootup screen of a PSone, the whites were bluish. The whites from my original SNES seemed very close to the PSone white.

[Drakon]

Yeah you can add resistors to bring down the brightness. The ghosting isn't 100% curable but the quality improvement is well worth living with ghosting that barely ever happens.

[marvelus10]

Any upscaler that can properly accept 240p input should be able to turn it into 480i/480p at the very least and would solve the problem. I don't know details offhand, but when I was researching converters last year, there were a surprising number that didn't like 240p input.

I went looking too and very few support 240p input.
RGB mods are fairly popular in the retro gaming world, what does everyone use? Are people spending upwards of $350 for an upscaler after they have sunk $100-$200 into modding their NES or other system to output RGB?

[Drakon]

I went looking too and very few support 240p input.
RGB mods are fairly popular in the retro gaming world, what does everyone use? Are people spending upwards of $350 for an upscaler after they have sunk $100-$200 into modding their NES or other system to output RGB?

Pretty much yes. Except the nes rgb mod costs way more than that if you want it done right.