Actually I love the first Alien film. I was actually coming to this thread just now to ask WHY the entire Alien series wasn't suggested yet... but AvP was. Ridley Scott is awesome...Niode wrote:I guess you hate the first Alien film then? Right? Every Kubrick film i've seen has had me in rapture from start to finish. I could watch those films over and over and over. There's so much to get from each viewing. Not like the shallow trash that is out these days. So fucking what if he was out of his mind on lsd. So fucking what, so was Jimi Hendrix, So were the later Beatles, does that mean their music has any less of an impact (for the record i'm not a Hendrix or Beatles fan but I can appreciate the art). No it doesn't. Since when was that a reason to dislike a film. I happen to find Kubrick's cinematography encapsulating, you can't help but get drawn in to films like 2001 or The Shining. The sheer fact that Kubrick strayed so far away from the source material shows that it's every bit his film rather than an adaptation of a shitty book. (read the shining, seriously, it's fucking terrible).lordofduct wrote:From the look of the list so far...
I'm not even gonna bother rambling off what I call good film making. Already Mozgus makes fun of my taste in film, so I'm not gonna set that fire cracker off.
And "Returners" is a film, Asian (probably Japanese). It some how found its way into my collection via some coke head whore that robbed a bunch of people I know. Anyways, it's pretty fun to watch, worth a netflix rental... wouldn't dare spend any money on it though, but seeing as the dime has already been dropped and IF they have it, give it a try.
Oh and Kubrick is not "timeless". It's mind bending and futile to say the least. Some of it is good to see the steps made in film making, and look into the creativity of a lunatic who was given money for God knows why. Of his bunch the only notable ones worth really watching are:
Space Odyssey 2001 - just to get it out of the way... for special effects and 'realism' its a spanking delicious looking film. But if you can't handle a slow movie, oh God run for the hills. This movie crawls, and not like a story driven movie crawls, but just big empty patches of nothing going on. Yey lets watch a guy run around a wheel for 10 minutes... or dude man float in space for another 10. Finally you get the end where the whole climax is handed to you inside of an enigma... and once you interpret and figure this whole mind fuck out. The moral is fucking ridiculous psycho babble that sounds like it was dreamt up by some egomaniac on too much LSD.
oh wait, both Kubrick and the author WERE on LSD!
A Clockwork Orange - because it's soooo brash! UGHH! It's teenage angst driven fuck fest is what it is. You want boobies and beatings. Have fun. The lingo is pretty interesting to listen too, but for the most part this early cyber punk thrill ride is just that... cheesy cyber punk thrill ride with all the sex and violence you can never want. Have fun. Did a report on this movie and book in middle school, it's a fad, that was my conclusion.
Full Metal Jacket - first hour is fun, second hour is another war film from the back line that I've seen a million times. Watch it for the boot camp though. This movie will have you laughing your ass off!
The Shining - the only Stephen King story put in movie film well. Which says a lot because Stephen King writes garbage... the fact it turned into a pretty scary movie says a lot.
Dr. Strangelove - funny, but not at the same time. You best be a Peter Sellers fan, or don't bother.
There's more I'm leaving out, but none worth really actually mentioning. Barry Lyndon is boring, Eyes Wide Shut is annoying, and on and on. All in all though the movies stay off my timeless list for a few reasons.
Pomposity - the irony of which has me in stitches right now... due the the necessity of pompous to even proclaim this.
Boring level - I like slow movies, they don't bother me, but this man has some unbelievable skill in boring the ever loving shit out of me. This is coming from a man who watched "Hawaii" at age 8. Yes the one from 66' with Julie Andrews... Which most of you probably never heard of due to its ability to bore.
Kubrick is a dipshit - the man is sooooo retarded it scares me. The man has been quoted saying that he doesn't remember making Space Odyssey or know what he meant by the movie. It was a drug addled interpretation of a crappy sci-fi... timeless? Yeah like Hunter S. Thompson timeless. The kind of timeless that makes you look back and say "Oh God we worshipped a fuck up!?"
As far as movie adaptations go, you can't go wrong with Fight Club. A sweet film (if shallow on the surface) and a pretty good, if short, read. Chuck Palahniuk's writing style is pretty cool yet it's not stupidly abstract to the point of trying to sound like somebody writing a self proclaimed masterpiece. I hate books that are purposefully dense. I don't have to time to read a book that requires 2 re-reads before I have an inkling of what's going on. I'm looking at you Dan Brown, Christ The Da Vinci Code was terrible, and so not worth reading. Neither was Angel & Demons, although it was slightly better than DVC.
Oh yeah, Ratatouille was ok, but I still prefer the Pixar films without humans in. The Incredibles doesn't count because they were cartoon characters and it was supposed to be like 60's art decor and the whole super heroes comic type (broad shoulders, large heads, square jaws etc) from that period. Ratatouille concentrated too much on humans, and as far as animation goes, humans aren't interesting to me, it's too close to the uncanny valley for my liking.
Blah, im rambling. I could argue all day about films though.
I need to eat, im cranky.
Alien
Bladerunner
Legend
to name a few.
And I actually I said the same thing about "The Shining"... "the only Stephen King story put in movie film well. Which says a lot because Stephen King writes garbage...". I have read the book, it's crap just like nearly all Stephen King's garbage.
Sorry though I still find Stanley Kubrick to be a bloated idol, worshiped because so many people were told too. When I was younger I loved his films, just like I loved the Beatles and Led Zeppelin. Today it's another story, I grew out of the "ultra-violence" and "psychodelics". In the end I came to the conclusion that most of his films generally bored me with the exceptions of a few scenes in each film. I watch movies that have a point, and when I looked into the point of most of Kubrick's films, and found most of them had NO point. I felt jaded and betrayed. Furthermore this thread so far has listed fast paced action style films that keep throwing stuff at you. Most people can't stand slow paced films anymore, I wouldn't suggest Kubrick to most of my peers and anyone younger merely because they probably can't sit through it. These are the same people who look at me confused when I say comic books make horrible movies and I'd never pay a dime in my life to see "Spiderman" on film... I never paid a dime for the comic book, why would I start now?
not to say Alien has some moral or point. It's cinematic perfection, but far from perfect as far as story and depth goes. I'm not a complete ass who can't enjoy a movie that is just fun, Kubrick just wasn't fun. It was pretty and psychodelic, and lost all its meaning through the years because even the creator couldn't remember "why". When I was a kid "A Clockwork Orange" was pure adrenalin on celluloid. The book was witty fun too my prepubescent mind. I re-read it years later and wondered what it was I actually loved about this book and movie, and I realized what it was: it was risky and taboo.
