What can Gamers do to save energy?

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What can gamers do?

Walk to the video game store
1
3%
dont play the Game Gear
10
34%
I dont celebrate Earth Day
10
34%
play in the dark
2
7%
Use Rechargable batteries
1
3%
Dust off Board games
2
7%
Use video game Guide books
0
No votes
Pull out there generator
1
3%
Lower playing to a few hours
1
3%
Solar computer charger
1
3%
 
Total votes: 29

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MrPopo wrote: Right, that's why we have politicans who spend all their free time educating themselves on the issues they are responsible to vote on.

Oh wait...
Technocracy is a form of government in which science would be in control of all decision making. Scientists, engineers and technologists who have knowledge, expertise or skills would compose the governing body, instead of politicians, businessmen and economists.[1]
Are you implying that all politicians are scientists and engineers? In current system politicians are selected because they are popular. Popularity can be bought. Current politicians are not given the jobs because their skills are superioir, they are selected because they have more money to give to ad campaigns, they have better connections, they look better than their opponents and they know what to say/lie to people to make them like them.
So because you don't see their contributions as worthy enough you get to decide that you can take most of their income and spend it on what you consider to be worthy pursuits. As arbitrary criterea go, this one's pretty terrible.
On the large scale of things, their money is only useful when they keep on investing it.
You do realize that organized group is just a collection of selfish and short sighted people.
Organized and selfish people who are being paid to put that money on a good use, whose jobs are being constantly monitored and who might face a life time in prision if they misuse their power.
Everything slides into decadence and corruption because that's just how people are. There is no force in nature that can stop it.
So if all systems are flawed by default, it's better to have an imperfect system where the ultimate purporse is to serve a very small minority of people than to have an imperfect system where the ultimate purporse is to serve mankind as a whole, even if it means that the top one % of people who already have it better than any one else might have to share? Society is a group of people acting together, and it's not a law of nature that most tax payers are willing to support a system which directs all the resources to a small elite forever.
Right, transparent autocracy held in check by civilian militias. I can see no contradiction there.
An armed nation can't be oppressed by it's own government. Transparency makes sure that any one can check that the tax money is really going where it's supposed to be going. No need for conspiracy theories and talks about The Man, problem solved.
Oh, is that all? I thought it'd be hard.
Unless the mindset is that people from third world countries are genetically inferioir, then the same methods that worked with current first world countries should work on them. Like I said, most first world countries wouldn't have any population growth with out immigration.
In order to achieve that, you must eliminate the problems in third world countries that keep them from progressing. If they cant become economically self-sufficient and weed out things like war and corruption, then they cant make progress.
You can read online why exactly our current method of foreign aid is actually harming third world countries more than helping, and why many third world economists would want us to stop giving them it.

I'm pretty sure you just implied that at some point the industrialized nations will engage in the largest organized genocide since WWII if the world population grows too large.
Yes. What happened to that decadent human nature? That corrupt human nature that has been causing wars and killing people for thousands of years for the personal gain of the few?
So you are saying that those rich people, who shouldn't be forced to share their resources at the current moment to prevent a scenario like this from happening, will just gladly start sharing with the poor once things start to look bad?
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In most western European countries and the United States, advocates of progressive taxation tend to be found among the majority of economists and social scientists, many of whom believe that completely proportional taxation is not a possibility.[16][17] In the U.S., an overwhelming majority of economists (81%) support progressive taxation.[16]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_tax

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Quite many of the wealthiest countries on earth already have progressive taxation system. Income disparity is a lot higher and economic freedom index is a lot lower in third world countries.
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Denmark is 11, Finland is 17 and Sweden is 21 on the Economic Freedom Index ranking. Australia (3), New Zealand (4), Switzerland (5), Canada (6) and Ireland (9) all had a higher level on ecnomic freedom than United States despite the fact that they were in the third lowest income disparity bracket.
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Menegrothx wrote:
ninjainspandex wrote:the answer is simple create more wars = shrinks the population, dunno why all you enviromentalists are always so anti war...
Are you serious?
didnt mankind realize it was foolish to prevent natural forest fires as the forest got too dense?
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ninjainspandex wrote:
Menegrothx wrote:
ninjainspandex wrote:the answer is simple create more wars = shrinks the population, dunno why all you enviromentalists are always so anti war...
Are you serious?
didnt mankind realize it was foolish to prevent natural forest fires as the forest got too dense?
Yeah well, if all those muslims wouldn't breed like rabbits we wouldn't need 'natural forest fires'...
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Wow, this thread suddenly got exceedingly offensive.
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Menegrothx

How do we decide you the most intelligent and skilled are? Someone has to make tests I would guess. How do we ensure those tests are accurate and impartial? There are other qualities besides skills and brains that make a good leader. What about that? How do we decide what mix is the best?

After we put these people in power how can civilians possibly monitor the layers and layers of ensuing government? With the sort of power we're talking about corruption is bound to happen. If the civilians are armed and the government isn't what prevents mod rule? Or if the government is armed, how can a bunch of civilians easily over come it? Holding the government at gun point to keep it in line is hardly ideal anyway.

You seem to believe there is a moral limit to the amount of money a person should have. How would one decide where that is? If we set such a limit, what is the motivation to make anymore money than the government allows you to use?

Our tax system is progressive.

Why should I give up my ideas of freedom and property so a group of people who think they are better than me can boss me around? How could mankind genuinely be better off if we give up such important ideals?
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Play the Nintendo Pokemon Mini. That has battery life for days and days on a single AAA
Optimizing PS2 games 480p (progressive) and 240p gsm hdtv
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