I never thought of it like that.TEKTORO wrote:mjmjr is also a professor who still lives at home with the parents.
mjmjr25's Arcade and Console SHMUPS Collection
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Very very nice collection mjm, I didn't think to include rail gun or twin stick shooters and the like in my list - maybe I should....
What made you want to take the jump to PCBs and the like? It seems to me that the relatively minimal jump in quality over MAME or console ports isn't worth the substantial price difference, and I know that arcade boards (historically) are much harder to maintain over the long term.
also, mjm -- you are a professor?!
What made you want to take the jump to PCBs and the like? It seems to me that the relatively minimal jump in quality over MAME or console ports isn't worth the substantial price difference, and I know that arcade boards (historically) are much harder to maintain over the long term.
also, mjm -- you are a professor?!
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I purposely didn't include rail shooters, run-n-guns or retro compilations that includes shmups myself.dsheinem wrote:Very very nice collection mjm, I didn't think to include rail gun or twin stick shooters and the like in my list - maybe I should....
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Erm, that's a pretty loaded question and would probably take an extremely long and thoughtful post to explain adequately.
To note, I do not like playing on a PC (or PC routed through TV for that matter). I do not like MAME in general - I try all games on MAME before buying however. Had I based my purchase on the MAME experience solely, I would not own Dimahoo or Eco Fighters. Dimahoo on MAME - sound is off, color distincition is muted and there are areas of slowdown that are not on the PCB.
There are other variances of course from PCB to port, Scoring system changed, characters unavailable, game re-arranged on the port, often in attempts to commercialize it, which ruin it for purists (not that i'm a purist, per se). During the port process - it can be little things, say a bullet is meant to be shot at X, on the arcade board, you actually see the ship, on the port the ship was missed, so the port can be very frustrating in that regard. Today, we have "patches", "re-releases" and "debugs" available and things like that can be fixed.
For those reasons I just stated - many present day shmups are equally as good on their 360 port. So many arcade hounds are actually breaking tradition and playing their 360's inside their cabs via xbox to JAMMA adapters.
That brings us back to the experience. There is just nothing like sitting in front of a tri-sync arcade monitor, 29" of crisp glory staring in your face. Speakers 2' from each ear, funneling in pure awesome and then your hands perfectly positioned on Japanese arcade components.
There is a reason people are spending $3.50 on a push button or $25 on a diff. stick as opposed to the stock on their Mad Catz stick - feel and performance. I have told so many in the past year - i'm sure to the point of annoyance, for a guy who always gamed on consoles, their is just no comparison to the full experience, all of those things mentioned into one setting.
I think I told this to Flake at one time - when you sit down at the cab, you have no option but to fully involve yourself in that game. You can't hit pause to help your girlfriend w/the groceries. You can't take a 10 second break to stop the baby from crawling into the oven. You can't go to the bathroom (I don't game in a diaper - but I def. sit-down w/an empty bladder). It is you and that board for the next...well, depends how long you can survive.
The other piece is games that just seem incredibly meh before - the arcade setting changes those games. An example being Super Buster Bros. (aka Mighty Pang for the CPS2 arcade system). It's the sort of game you would never think would be completely changed by using arcade parts and sitting up close and personal with - but that silly little puzzle / action game became my go to game for a good 3-week period, having hi-score competition with myself.
Maybe put it this way - picture you and bud a playing a versus fighting game, SSFIV for example. Sitting on a couch, arcade stick in your lap - that is a good time. Now sit down at a PC at your table, that would feel a bit odd to me, but could be a good time - now sit down or stand up at a cab - experience just changes.
I think you can emulate the experience with modded sticks and forcing yourself to sit close to someone, and to the monitor, but it just isn't quite the same.
Anyways - that's the short answer.
As for Rail Shooters / Twin Stick Shooters (Mech Shooters / Arena Shooters / Run n' Gun for the matter), I intended to leave them all out and I thought I mostly did. I left out the Virtual On games, Sin and Punishment N64, Cannon Spike, Baldr Force, etc and the vast majority of those genres. I never think of Rainbow Cotton as a true rail shooter - though it of course is.
No, I am not a professor. The Bull took a jab at me. It hurt. It stunned me, but I did not go down...and, I will be back.
To note, I do not like playing on a PC (or PC routed through TV for that matter). I do not like MAME in general - I try all games on MAME before buying however. Had I based my purchase on the MAME experience solely, I would not own Dimahoo or Eco Fighters. Dimahoo on MAME - sound is off, color distincition is muted and there are areas of slowdown that are not on the PCB.
There are other variances of course from PCB to port, Scoring system changed, characters unavailable, game re-arranged on the port, often in attempts to commercialize it, which ruin it for purists (not that i'm a purist, per se). During the port process - it can be little things, say a bullet is meant to be shot at X, on the arcade board, you actually see the ship, on the port the ship was missed, so the port can be very frustrating in that regard. Today, we have "patches", "re-releases" and "debugs" available and things like that can be fixed.
For those reasons I just stated - many present day shmups are equally as good on their 360 port. So many arcade hounds are actually breaking tradition and playing their 360's inside their cabs via xbox to JAMMA adapters.
That brings us back to the experience. There is just nothing like sitting in front of a tri-sync arcade monitor, 29" of crisp glory staring in your face. Speakers 2' from each ear, funneling in pure awesome and then your hands perfectly positioned on Japanese arcade components.
There is a reason people are spending $3.50 on a push button or $25 on a diff. stick as opposed to the stock on their Mad Catz stick - feel and performance. I have told so many in the past year - i'm sure to the point of annoyance, for a guy who always gamed on consoles, their is just no comparison to the full experience, all of those things mentioned into one setting.
I think I told this to Flake at one time - when you sit down at the cab, you have no option but to fully involve yourself in that game. You can't hit pause to help your girlfriend w/the groceries. You can't take a 10 second break to stop the baby from crawling into the oven. You can't go to the bathroom (I don't game in a diaper - but I def. sit-down w/an empty bladder). It is you and that board for the next...well, depends how long you can survive.
The other piece is games that just seem incredibly meh before - the arcade setting changes those games. An example being Super Buster Bros. (aka Mighty Pang for the CPS2 arcade system). It's the sort of game you would never think would be completely changed by using arcade parts and sitting up close and personal with - but that silly little puzzle / action game became my go to game for a good 3-week period, having hi-score competition with myself.
Maybe put it this way - picture you and bud a playing a versus fighting game, SSFIV for example. Sitting on a couch, arcade stick in your lap - that is a good time. Now sit down at a PC at your table, that would feel a bit odd to me, but could be a good time - now sit down or stand up at a cab - experience just changes.
I think you can emulate the experience with modded sticks and forcing yourself to sit close to someone, and to the monitor, but it just isn't quite the same.
Anyways - that's the short answer.
As for Rail Shooters / Twin Stick Shooters (Mech Shooters / Arena Shooters / Run n' Gun for the matter), I intended to leave them all out and I thought I mostly did. I left out the Virtual On games, Sin and Punishment N64, Cannon Spike, Baldr Force, etc and the vast majority of those genres. I never think of Rainbow Cotton as a true rail shooter - though it of course is.
No, I am not a professor. The Bull took a jab at me. It hurt. It stunned me, but I did not go down...and, I will be back.
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Need to hear the long version at some point. 
Really sweet stuff man. Completely trumps my collection, especially now that it consists of 360 ports and 1 pcb. lol.
Really sweet stuff man. Completely trumps my collection, especially now that it consists of 360 ports and 1 pcb. lol.
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ok mjmjr25 you sold me on those Neo Geo boxes over Bigbears cases. I am ordering them as soon as I get my tax refund.
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Yeah, they are pretty slick looking - factor in cost AND space savings, it made a lot of sense for me.fastbilly1 wrote:ok mjmjr25 you sold me on those Neo Geo boxes over Bigbears cases. I am ordering them as soon as I get my tax refund.
To note: The boxes will fold up in either direction. One side has a protective gloss which is obviously the outside (I realized this after I messed and put my first label on a non-glossy side :/ )
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I was just about to comment on those neo mini boxes. ever since i saw them at neogeo.com iv been wanting to grab some but didnt since they had to be shipped from italy and seemed too expensive for just some cardboard. if you wouldnt mind telling, how much did you pay?
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If you buy over (50-ish) they come out around $3.60 a box and $1 per spine sticker, shipped.
It was cheaper to buy them in bulk I recall, don't recall the exact difference though.
Not cheap, but still 1/3 the price of a shock w/art, and it is a truly custom fit - so get max space savings.
It was cheaper to buy them in bulk I recall, don't recall the exact difference though.
Not cheap, but still 1/3 the price of a shock w/art, and it is a truly custom fit - so get max space savings.
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true, i prefer them over shocks. but uuuugh..... do you think its worth it to order 20?
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