A nation of butthurts ~ Death Penalty for kiddie diddlers.

[Mozgus]

All of them. Since when is it acceptable to criticize the laws against and punishment of child rape? And the whole thing with teenagers? I have plenty of friends at school. If you expect me to learn about a good friend of mine getting raped by some sick bastard, and not want the guy killed, all of you are crazy. There's no "understanding" and "proffesional help" for rapists. They are jailed for life, or killed, depending on the damage done to the victim.

Chances are likely that your "Friend" wanted it, got it, regretted it, and lied to salvage her reputation. Chances are further likely that you'll learn this info yourself in a few years, and feel very much used like a cry pillow.

I say death penalty for everyone who commits crime....there's too many gosh darn people on this planet <.<

You're so awesome.

[The Apprentice]

Alright, Mozgus. You win. I hope you and all the other people who share your opinions make this a brighter world for child rapists the world over. Now if you'll excuse me, I don't think I'll be posting on these forums for a while.

[Svovl]

What's the reasoning for bringing such a discussion to a retro-gaming forum?

[Ivo]

What's the reasoning for bringing such a discussion to a retro-gaming forum?

This is the whatever forum and he warned in advance. I knew full well what was going to be discussed in the thread, and I'm not even from the U.S. or keeping up with the news. Seriously I'd think 99% of the people that didn't want to discuss this can just read the thread title (which, granted, could and should be worded a bit differently in my opinion) and move over.

For added confusion, there's more than one topic being discussed here. Mozgus isn't particularly carefully in his posts, which is obviously going to be added injury in issues that are sensitive to a lot of people.

Legal age group distinctions make sense. A 10 year old and a 16 year old are very different in a lot of aspects. They are already used in fact in a bunch of laws over the world (I'm not familiar with U.S. laws, which on top of that vary by state, but for example 16 and over can drive low cc motorcycles, whereas 18 and over can drive cars, and I think only over 21 can drive really high cc motorcycles unless they had the low cc license for 3 years already). Apparently they are used partially in when marriages are or are not legal in some states there.

For the record, I'm against the death penalty even for murderers (but I'm from a country which doesn't use it to begin with), I also think that rape < murder. They're both terrible crimes, but I think also people are forgetting that many times the people doing it have serious mental problems. Which of course isn't going to do much for the victims, and of course they must be kept from repeating their actions, but there's more than one way of doing that. I believe chemical castration is used as punishment for some sex offenders somewhere in the world, but you'll excuse me for not looking that up on google .

Perhaps an effort to be level headed in topics which are obviously sensitive issues would be a benefit to everyone. There is no reason for abandoning the forum just because you disagree with one poster in one thread.

Ivo.

[Droid party]

I believe chemical castration is used as punishment for some sex offenders somewhere in the world, but you'll excuse me for not looking that up on google .

Voluntary chemical castration is being trialed for sex offenders wanting early release here in Australia with consideration that it become compulsory for serious offenders.

For the record I disagree with the Death penalty(for any crime). Our ability to grant mercy is what makes us better than those who commit heinous crimes. Besides, these people always wind up getting mob justice when they get inside anyway. The rapist get raped and so on.

Although to see them die wouldn't exactly make me shed any tears.

[lordofduct]

I don't think Mozgus or I stood up for 'rapists', i.e. the guys who go out and knowingly take advantage of young children and abuse their naivety.

We did say there should be a distinction between what constitutes statutory rape. You are talking about a crime that is "he said, she said", it's a very hard thing to be destroying people lives with. As I said, I know people at the age of 19 who were placed on the "sexual predator" list here in my local area due to a stupid fight they had with their 17/16 year old significant other.

There is also the consideration that there has been cases in this country (the U.S.) where boys UNDER the age of 18 got charged with statutory rape for having sex with a girl the same age as them.




I would never in my life stand up for a, as I stated before, a 30+ year old rapist who knowingly picks up very young girls on the internet or the likes and actually 'rapes' them. There is a big different between rape and statutory rape. Rape is charged when the other is unwilling to have intercourse, the other is the other is considered to young to decide if they are willing or not. The latter of which is questionable... if a 16 year old can legally choose to have sex with a 17 year old, why can't they choose to have sex with a 20 year old? (in some counties).

[Mozgus]

Alright, Mozgus. You win. I hope you and all the other people who share your opinions make this a brighter world for child rapists the world over. Now if you'll excuse me, I don't think I'll be posting on these forums for a while.

Wow, you did exactly what my warning said NOT to do. (Check my edit time and his post time.) Saw that coming.

I don't think Mozgus or I stood up for 'rapists', i.e. the guys who go out and knowingly take advantage of young children and abuse their naivety.

This shouldn't even have to be said. This is exactly what I mean by how you get labeled for trying to be reasonable.

[andymol21]

This is all too much for me to think about. I'm gonna go into my little Mario world where the only people who get hurt are the nasty Goombas. I don't have any views on the subject at all, Law has never been my strong point. I do agree that this topic is a bit controversial for a Retro Gaming forum, but free speech and all! There is fair warning, and opinions should be respected, right or wrong.

[raztat]

The death penalty should only be used on serial killers, if you kill a lot of people you deserve to die. If you have sex with a 16 year old there should not be a chance of you dieing. I hate people. People are stupid. I wish I was Japanese and lived in Japan, only if life had a reset button!

[nateup2]

Wow there are some dumbass extremes in this thread!

I agree with pretty much everything Moz said until: "Chances are likely that your "Friend" wanted it, got it, regretted it, and lied to salvage her reputation."

Get the fuck outta here with that garbage.

Don't get me wrong apprentice is talking silly, out of emotion like a kid would, but "chances are she wanted it" is REALLY dumb talk! 1st of all, it is simply not true that this is the case with MOST rape victoms. I have to say that I don't even believe that you feel this way and hope you retract that statement so that I can go back to respecting your intelligence. Do you really think that most rape victoms "wanted it"? You do know that this IS a cliche, textbook rapist belief, right?

Like I said, I agree with you (no death penalty for rapists, victom age differentation, revised statutory rape laws), up until you make an untrue, ridiculous statement like that... obviously out of anger.

You are not a rapest or a fucking moron, so please do yourself a favor and take that nonsense back.