A nation of butthurts ~ Death Penalty for kiddie diddlers.

[Mozgus]

Warning: Edgy subject. If you think you might disagree with me so harshly that you feel compelled to leave the entire forum, this thread would be best left unread.

I cant even turn on the news lately, online or off. All this week I'm seeing nothing but dumbshits in an uproar over the fact that the death penalty has been turned down in cases of child rape. I don't know what world I live in anymore, when people do not realize that murder is still the ultimate form of punishment. Murder is always at the top of the chain. Sorry guys, but it is. Murder cannot be surpassed, and should only be used against those who themselves committed murder. I seriously thought this was common fucking sense.

But oh no, now I'm a kiddie fucker. You cant even try to reason with these people before they label you a sicko as well. Yes, ok? Yes the rape of a child is terrible. But that child will still live. I know that they can have physical and emotional and MENTAL damage from it. I KNOW THAT! But they still live! If you're telling rape victims that they're now dumpster material for life, then you can just GTFO. You're making it worse.

So what can you do? Gee, I dunno, wreak havoc on the rapists own anus? You think I'm joking, but I'm not. They should take an object, scale it to size as if he were the little boy or girl, and rip his ass to shreds. Make it so he'll shit his pants for the rest of his life. Why isn't that an option? It would work. Or why not just lob their cock and balls off? No anesthetic, because the victim never had that. I promise you, the pain and psychosis that man will go through will be equal to the victim's. It WILL work, and it WILL prevent it from ever happening again.

I also want to bring up the issue that no one seems to know what constitutes a "child" anymore. I've seen far too many cases of men being crucified for having sex with 13-16 year olds. Yes, that's fucked up, but a lot of 13-16 year olds look 18-22 these days, especially in my state. A lot of cornfed girls around here or something, I dunno. Anyway, the public always pretends that the victims were poor innocent little angels that did their best to defend themselves against these manbeast savages, and it's never like that. Realistically, the girls were drinking, made poor choices, acted like sluts, regretted what they did soon after, and tried to lie their way out of it. When in doubt, trust jailbait ass. It wouldn't possibly lie to you, now would it?

My point is, sex with, or even rape within this age range, should not be put on the same platter as actual children. Why? Well ignoring the fact that a large chunk of the world systematically weds off and impregnates their 13 year olds (and lets not pretend that our little boys and girls are somehow holier and purer than their's.) people develop at different ages. We don't suddenly become mature at 18. Most of us begin physically maturing long before that mark. I'm saying, someone who is sexually attracted to developed (or even mostly developed) teens is a VERY different person from someone who wants to have sex with children who haven't even hit puberty. Those are two completely different conditions. Treat them as such.

And speaking of conditions, they can be treated. No, shut up. They can. This isn't some magical exception. Far too many wingnuts claim that pedophiles cant be cured, but they have absolutely no evidence back that up, besides their raging disgust for these people. Rage all you want, but you need facts. I'm saying, people aren't just born like this. Usually they come from poor and dysfunctional families, but they've also been seen to come from very upstanding yet strict upbringings. On the one hand, you have people who were raised (or not at all) by terrible parents, and surrounded by perverse mentalities, and on the other hand, you have people who were so strongly shielded to anything sexual outside of marriage, that they developed the wrong urges and saw forbidden fruit in the wrong places.

It doesn't even seem safe to express this viewpoint in public without being labeled, so there you have it. In short, murder the murderers, rape the rapists. Everyone, move the fuck on.

[lordofduct]

I can kinda agree with you on that one.

Especially the adolescent girls...


I'm sorry, but I don't know the last time I was at the bar and dancing with a girl... when I leaned over and kissed her, I then whispered sweet nothings of "can I see your ID" into her ear. Thankfully I haven't fallen to end up with an underage girl... but they are there... I've caught witness to it a few times.

For instance I meet one of my friends Bon at a small bar. Just sitting around and chatting a bunch of people start sitting at the table. Before I knew it Bon was the eldest of the crew other then me. Bon only being 21. Low and behold most of the "women" (and I say women as they looked like women) were from 16 to 19 years old, kicking back beers and vodka tonics like the best of them.

Not fucking cool, and why aren't these girls getting kicked out? Probably because the bartender didn't question their fake I.D. Which in turn strikes out the asking a girl for her I.D. as she could hand you her fake as well (which I've seen).



We as a nation are very quick to label sex crimes. I understand we need this... there ARE sickos out there. Small, very young children, and naive young teens are 'raped'. But the next time I hear about some one I know getting tossed on the "sexual predator list" because his girlfriend of 17 and he of 20 got in a fight one night. Which in half the states is legal, but the other half is not. Also a law not commonly known.

Tell me if you know the exact statuatory rape laws in your area? Please try and even locate them. And keep in mind, counties, towns, and villages also can instate their own laws on top of the state and federal laws as well. For instance Polk county Florida has EXTREMELY stringent laws to the point you can be thrown in jail for owning 'adult toys' and 'pornography'.





Not to say I think it is right for a 31 year old man to want to screw 14-16 year olds he picks up off the internet. They should be prosecuted, and given help. They are actively and knowingly going out and doing this. But you know what, that doesn't warrant extremist reactions. It requires assistance, understanding, and acceptance of a problem.



And come on, even our own nation is known to of wed of girls at as young of an age as 12 and 13 up until the mid 20th century on a regular basis. That's last generation. Shit my uncle and aunt wed at 15/16 in the 60's. Go back even one more nation, and let me tell you... I come from a HUGE family... when do you think them farm girls were popping babies out on the kitchen table? (yes I'm a hillbilly)

[Randy_Marsh]

i vote for tying them up, setting their scrotum on a stone slab, and letting the kid's dad have a whack with a sledgehammer, Gallagher-style.

i'm dead serious.

[Randy_Marsh]

and i agree with mozgus that there should be different punishments for teens in the 13-16 range. and if the offender is like 18, fucking a 16 yr old chick should have no penalty.

[Mozgus]

Not fucking cool, and why aren't these girls getting kicked out? Probably because the bartender didn't question their fake I.D. Which in turn strikes out the asking a girl for her I.D. as she could hand you her fake as well (which I've seen).

I hope I didn't say that you should be asking for ID. I know that's not suave. I was instead thinking it might just be a better idea to get to know people before having sex with them? I've never understood drunken one night stands. I guess I'm old fashioned now. I just never got the urge to place my penis in someone I don't trust and care about. If you wanna act like a horny monkey who can't control his dick, then there's no helping you. Place your bets, and godspeed, Chim Chim!

[ImportBoy]

I think the death penalty in and of itself is pretty barbaric for any modern society regardless of the crime. Just take a look at the few countries who still use it - I don't the US should be wanting to emulate them anytime soon!

Not much good comes out of New Jersey of late, but I can at least be proud my state was the most recent to abolish capital punishment in the US.

I'm all for repealing most statuatory rape laws also. For the most part I think they are just hold overs from "religious" holier then thou morons trying to impose their values on others.

[The Apprentice]

I can't describe how angry I am at this "logic." I can't even imagine why anyone would take the viewpoint expressed in this topic.

[lordofduct]

I can't describe how angry I am at this "logic." I can't even imagine why anyone would take the viewpoint expressed in this topic.

Which view point is that?

There's a few things brought up here.

[The Apprentice]

All of them. Since when is it acceptable to criticize the laws against and punishment of child rape? And the whole thing with teenagers? I have plenty of friends at school. If you expect me to learn about a good friend of mine getting raped by some sick bastard, and not want the guy killed, all of you are crazy. There's no "understanding" and "proffesional help" for rapists. They are jailed for life, or killed, depending on the damage done to the victim.

[HoboJoe]

I say death penalty for everyone who commits crime....there's too many gosh darn people on this planet <.<