o.pwuaioc wrote:
Nazis? Already? Really? If you think that's true, then you must really have abandoned all pretense to Greek heritage. Think who was and wasn't allowed to participate in the Olympic games in the sixth century BCE.
sigh.....
I was talking about the far right in general, which we like to call Nazis as a joke, who refuse to accept immigrants who are born and raised in European countries as Europeans. Nationality is about culture.
We and Turks mixed so much over the past 1000 years that we look a lot alike. They look nothing like Mongols, and we barely look like ancient Greeks. BUT our cultures, while sharing a lot, also remain worlds apart.
Sure, but now that they're there, are you going to make them leave? If so, then you've ignored your own advice to just accept them there.
From original Israel? No. From the lands they stole with the 7 day war? The lands the international community yells at them not to build settlements in yet they continue? Those settlements are illegal, so yes they should be kicked out of those, cause from the beginning they were told that they can't keep them.
It's like someone building a home on YOUR property and then selling it to me, while I know the piece of land doesn't belong to him, and then me complaining when you go to court and get the house torn down.
Yes, I'm sure we all would have just
loved to cooperate with the Nazis.
No, but I don't see what we would gain if we went to war with Turkey. Dude you don't know Balkan history and the various national animosity between countries for stuff that happened 80 years ago, so why are you trying to destroy my arguments regarding the Balkans?
And actually WE DID cooperate with the "Nazis" afterwards. It was called the EU. And look how THAT worked out, compared with our cooperation with "them" after WW1.
Any more gems before this tired argument is retired? Perhaps you'd like to quote Tacitus on making a desert and calling it peace? Perhaps you'd like to liken Jewish settlement to the Holocaust (as Ahmadinejad and many others have)? Perhaps you'd like to praise the Palestinians for deliberately targeting Jewish civilians with rockets? Perhaps you'd like to ignore your own so-called "people" for fighting a war against the massive armies of Darius and Xerxes so that today you can speak a descendent of Greek and know democracy rather than speak a descendent of Persian and live under a satrap of the Great King?
Perhaps you'd like to stop with the teenager level attacks? As I said both sides are at fault and they NEED to learn to work together towards peace. If Israel wants to be called a democracy and a modern nation it has to understand that it has to make the first step, cause you can't expect the people who are being blockaded, have a lower standard of living (and thus lower education, which makes nationalism and religious fanatism grow easier) and who demand that Israel do the simple thing of stopping construction of settlements while the talks are going on and it refuses, be the greater person. You expect that from the "democracy".
After WW2 Europe FINALLY learned that nationalistic propaganda is like AIDS for a people's soul. I just find it ironic that the people who failed most from it, are now committing it.
And WTF do the Persians have to do with anything?
