A) Retro games are better than current gen games.
B) Current gen games are better than retro games.
(Spoiler: it's a trick question).
Do you mean as a whole? Because that I could answer. If you want to ask whether every single retro game is better or worse than every single current gen game, then obviously you're setting up a strawman which you can easily knock down.
You like current gen games. We get it. You don't have to shit on our opinion because we by and large don't.
o.pwuaioc wrote:
Do you mean as a whole? Because that I could answer. If you want to ask whether every single retro game is better or worse than every single current gen game, then obviously you're setting up a strawman which you can easily knock down.
You like current gen games. We get it. You don't have to shit on our opinion because we by and large don't.
I was simply saying it's not black and white. The OP seems to be saying that all retro games are better than all current gen games. That's a pretty big blanket statement. I don't see how saying neither is better than the other is shitting on anyone or anything?
o.pwuaioc wrote:
Do you mean as a whole? Because that I could answer. If you want to ask whether every single retro game is better or worse than every single current gen game, then obviously you're setting up a strawman which you can easily knock down.
You like current gen games. We get it. You don't have to shit on our opinion because we by and large don't.
I was simply saying it's not black and white. The OP seems to be saying that all retro games are better than all current gen games. That's a pretty big blanket statement. I don't see how saying neither is better than the other is shitting on anyone or anything?
He said no such thing. You can neither read that in OP nor read it out of OP.
Some retro games benefited from the limitations of the hardware but that was largely genre specific. Certain genres got what they needed to get it right earlier than others. Some types of games needed more technology to be fully realized.
I would wager that the current state of the industry and the customer base has a much larger effect on the type of games that make it to retail than hardware does.
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Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
Just saying that I think talking about retro vs. current gen is silly. There's good games and bad games from every generation. It has little to do with hardware limitations, and more to do with talent of developers.
Not sure why this is bothering you so much. You seem to think I'm pushing current gen games on retro gamers or something. I'm not a fan of one over the other. I'm just a fan of games.
Just saying that I think talking about retro vs. current gen is silly. There's good games and bad games from every generation. It has little to do with hardware limitations, and more to do with talent of developers.
Not sure why this is bothering you so much. You seem to think I'm pushing current gen games on retro gamers or something. I'm not a fan of one over the other. I'm just a fan of games.
I'm bothered that you are misinterpreting something so as to make one position seem far sillier than it actually is. No one is saying that there can't exist good games from this generation, but rather that hardware limitations pushed developers to overcome them by creating unique solutions. The more complex a game gets, the harder for so many unique things to appear. This isn't a bad theory, although it's rather simplistic and misses out tons of other variables, such as the increased size and budget restrictions of game developers and the lucrative appeal of appealing to the underage masses and gun-obsessed college males rather than the games made for those wanting more substance (not saying they don't exist, however, so please don't read something that's not in what I'm saying).
I'm going to have to side with Noise on this argument. It may not be shown so much in this thread, but we've had quite a few lately.
In general, as of late, there seems to have been a lot of people here that completely dismiss modern gaming. Hell, some guy left like a week after joining because he couldn't believe that some of us think that modern games are good.
noise wrote:sigh.
Just saying that I think talking about retro vs. current gen is silly. There's good games and bad games from every generation. It has little to do with hardware limitations, and more to do with talent of developers.
Not sure why this is bothering you so much. You seem to think I'm pushing current gen games on retro gamers or something. I'm not a fan of one over the other. I'm just a fan of games.
This basically.
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o.pwuaioc wrote: ...This isn't a bad theory, although it's rather simplistic and misses out tons of other variables, such as the increased size and budget restrictions of game developers and the lucrative appeal of appealing to the underage masses and gun-obsessed college males rather than the games made for those wanting more substance...
There is something about that stance that bothers me and I think it is that you are assuming that what you (and I suppose OP and others) like is better than what other people like. A game's 'goodness' is a subjective quality.
Whereas you might hate what those 'gun obsessed college males' like (and I would probably agree with you) the fact is that there are enough of them who like specific types of games that simply saying 'oh, they don't know what a good game is and what I like is better' is a bit of a logical fallacy.
I think this entire thread is an exercise in trying to quantify something that cannot be. Either that or patting ourselves on the shoulder and agreeing with one another that our taste in games makes us elite somehow. It smacks a little too much of the whole 'PC gamer master race' nonsense I hear about far too often.
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
