Metal Gear Solid 4 Wins

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Metal Gear Solid 4 Wins

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It got a 10/10 on IGN and Gamespot. Makes me want to get a PS3 over Xbox.
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It is one of my favorite games now, you really shouldnt trust reviews but its damn good. Just beat it about an hour ago actually.
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This is simply the game that will make me buy a PS3 (until now I was perfectly happy with my 360).
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Kevman wrote:It got a 10/10 on IGN and Gamespot. Makes me want to get a PS3 over Xbox.
Makes me want to indefinitely ignore "professional" critics. User score averages are ALWAYS more accurate. You can't give a game a 10/10, (especially if you deal in tenths of a whole,) if you list any flaws. If you do so, you might as well wear a sign saying that you were bribed. But hell, we have threads on this already.
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Mozgus wrote:
Kevman wrote:It got a 10/10 on IGN and Gamespot. Makes me want to get a PS3 over Xbox.
Makes me want to indefinitely ignore "professional" critics. User score averages are ALWAYS more accurate. You can't give a game a 10/10, (especially if you deal in tenths of a whole,) if you list any flaws. If you do so, you might as well wear a sign saying that you were bribed. But hell, we have threads on this already.
It was you who sent me the penny-arcade strip making fun of the people out there bitching about the score the game got on Gametrailers?

I read the comments people had to say about the 9.3 it received, which I considered rather generous, saying it was way to low. Low? It is .7 points away from perfect... and people had to say that "This proves Gametrailers is a bunch of XBOX fanboys in MS's back pocket".

Like Moz says, a game never deserves a 10/10. It is a ridiculous score that should be reserved for games that please ALL players 100%... no complaints... perfect game. I can't think of ANYTHING that pleases all users and has nothing wrong with it. Perfection is an impossibility. And the fact anyone would buy a game because it scored a perfect causes me to lose all respect for that person's judgement in video games.
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lordofduct wrote:It was you who sent me the penny-arcade strip making fun of the people out there bitching about the score the game got on Gametrailers?

I read the comments people had to say about the 9.3 it received, which I considered rather generous, saying it was way to low. Low? It is .7 points away from perfect... and people had to say that "This proves Gametrailers is a bunch of XBOX fanboys in MS's back pocket".
Yeah I sent you that. I'm confused; it sorta sounded like you were countering my point somehow but I'm not sure. True, that 9.3 did light a fire under all the butthurt PSTripple owners, but ya know what? That video review honestly was quite shit, and not because of the score. For one, I didn't hear them say a damn thing about the multiplayer. Meanwhile in the GTA4 review, they wouldn't shut the fuck up about how brilliant the multiplayer was, when all I saw was some glorified deathmatch shit. Second, they said positive things about MGS4's soundtrack, including the word "memorable". I've listened to the score and short of the accoustic intro theme, none of that shit is memorable. If it was such great music, why did half their video review use MGS3's music, hmm?

Seriously, GT blows. There seem to be some much more realistic reviews popping up now that the contractual ones got their time in the spotlight, so who cares anymore?
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lordofduct wrote:
Mozgus wrote:
Kevman wrote:It got a 10/10 on IGN and Gamespot. Makes me want to get a PS3 over Xbox.
Makes me want to indefinitely ignore "professional" critics. User score averages are ALWAYS more accurate. You can't give a game a 10/10, (especially if you deal in tenths of a whole,) if you list any flaws. If you do so, you might as well wear a sign saying that you were bribed. But hell, we have threads on this already.
It was you who sent me the penny-arcade strip making fun of the people out there bitching about the score the game got on Gametrailers?

I read the comments people had to say about the 9.3 it received, which I considered rather generous, saying it was way to low. Low? It is .7 points away from perfect... and people had to say that "This proves Gametrailers is a bunch of XBOX fanboys in MS's back pocket".

Like Moz says, a game never deserves a 10/10. It is a ridiculous score that should be reserved for games that please ALL players 100%... no complaints... perfect game. I can't think of ANYTHING that pleases all users and has nothing wrong with it. Perfection is an impossibility. And the fact anyone would buy a game because it scored a perfect causes me to lose all respect for that person's judgement in video games.
Thats why its not a perfect score. IGN and Gamespot call it Masterful, which MGS4 is.
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RyaNtheSlayA wrote:Thats why its not a perfect score. IGN and Gamespot call it Masterful, which MGS4 is.
A perfect score is a score which can't be any higher. It's perfect. That's why it's called perfect. It has no fault. I don't care what wordplay IGN and Gamespot use to try to cover the fact that they've been rating games higher and higher each generation, because I know how numbers work. They've dug themselves in a hole with these number ratings. What will they do when the super happy funtime edition of MGS4 comes out where with added content, like where Snake becomes a NASCAR driver? I mean, when you take a game that's already a 10.0, and add more content to it, you can't possibly give it a lower score than 10.0, can you? Prepare for the apocalypse, because when they give that game the inevitable 10.1/10, the world will implode. Divide by zero, and so forth.
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I don't understand how a game with as many non-interactive moments as MGS4 could get a perfect score. Hell, Space Ace and Dragon's Lair have more gameplay.
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Mozgus wrote:
Kevman wrote:It got a 10/10 on IGN and Gamespot. Makes me want to get a PS3 over Xbox.
Makes me want to indefinitely ignore "professional" critics. User score averages are ALWAYS more accurate. You can't give a game a 10/10, (especially if you deal in tenths of a whole,) if you list any flaws. If you do so, you might as well wear a sign saying that you were bribed. But hell, we have threads on this already.
But IGN never says the games they give 10's are perfect, they 10 simply means that they are "the pinnacle of gaming brilliance". In fact the clearly state on their scoring rubris guide that no game is perfect and that the games that they give 10's are ,and I quote, "virtually flawless". More info here-http://games.ign.com/ratings.html. So by saying that a website like this was bribed would be an ignorant statement.

I do see what all of you are saying though, how no game can be perfect. There has to be some distinguishability between other games who don't make the cut as a brilliant game and there also has to be a stopping point. You can't have a game that ranks 10/infinite. I think gaming websites websites really can't pull off a scoring rubris like the one they use now. Movies can do the whole 5 star thing because you know it's not perfect. I'm sure 5 star hotels are not perfect, but they are pretty damn nice.

I think a good idea would to put ALL the games in a huge list, and then sort the games from greatest to least, then maybe people would stop complaining about people being biased and stupid. Then technically there would be no perfect game, just a top ranking game.

Just my $.02.
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