Megaupload Dead

[AmishSamurai]

Reading this thread has been the mental equivalent of staring at the sun.

[RyaNtheSlayA]

Reading this thread has been the mental equivalent of staring at the sun.

^ couldn't have said it better

[elmagicochrisg]

I still don't see where the justification for either a refund or a defense of piracy is.

I still don't understand how an individual isn't the sole one responsible for deciding to spend their personal resources on a bad product. Whether they got "ripped off" or not is inconsequential, they simply have to deal with the decision that they made on their own.

Guys, obviously we're missing where someone was forced to buy entertainment at gunpoint, lest their family be murdered in front of them. Or was it that if they don't play new games every 60 days the bus will explode? Nono wait, they're addicted to games and if they don't have their fix they can't function for the day. Shit, consume entertainment or god kills a kitten? I can't keep it all straight guys.

One word: marketing

Those people lie to you constantly. So if you buy their product based on what they say half the time you're fucked. That's as good as stealing to me. That's also what wclem was trying to explain...

Whether they got "ripped off" or not is inconsequential.

The fuck is wrong with you?...

[Luke]

Wow. This thread. Just, wow.

[dsheinem]

One word: marketing

Those people lie to you constantly. So if you buy their product based on what they say half the time you're fucked. That's as good as stealing to me. That's also what wclem was trying to explain...

I have zero sympathy for people who don't understand that all entertainment is going to be marketed as "amazing" and "must see/hear/own". What do you expect: "please buy our game, worse ones have been made and we do have a few decent ideas in here" or "this movie will feel like a waste of your time, but it is marginally better than sitting in the motor vehicle office for two hours"?

So no, hyped marketing is not "as good as stealing" at all.

Reading this thread has been the mental equivalent of staring at the sun.

At least when you do that you go blind and don't keep seeing stupid shit afterwards. This thread keeps delivering the idiocy long after your mind has turned to mush!

[Luke]

So no, hyped marketing is not "as good as stealing" at all.

To even suggest that "hyped marketing" is as "good as stealing" is beyond idiocy. There's so much entitlement and lack of personal responsibility in this thread it's embarrassing.

Even if someone tells you "This X will be the Best X ever" the consumer makes the decision to purchase X. It's ultimately the consumers responsibility to make an informed decision as to if they want to purchase the product or not.

I'm not going to argue with anyone, just stating that some of the opinions stated in this thread seem to be coming from people who've never lived in the real world.

[Hatta]

Bullshit. Wall Street and Hollywood's shady practices are protected by bad regulatory law, and when those laws are broken people do actually go to jail, so don't pretend otherwise.

That is not the case. Real laws were broken concerning fraud and perjury, and they were broken systematically for profit. You should look at what William Black has to say. He's a former regulator turned academic who helped put hundreds of bankers in jail during the 1980s S&L says that both of these crises were driven by fraud.

I can understand why you'd think otherwise. That's the narrative they like to pass off, that regulations were too weak, but we have laws against fraud. They choose not to enforce them against their cronies, and enforce them against people like Dotcom instead.

In this case, Megaupload clearly violated existing law, including those that aren't specifically about piracy.

Did you notice that none of the defendants in this case were US citizens or accused of breaking the law in their home country? This is like one of us getting extradited to Saudi Arabia for blaspheming Mohammed.

[Flake]

One word: marketing
Those people lie to you constantly. So if you buy their product based on what they say half the time you're fucked. That's as good as stealing to me. That's also what wclem was trying to explain...

Wow. So you literally blame everyone but yourself for any entertainment purchase you make that doesn't set your world on fire?

[Jrecee]

I was recommended this topic in the ron paul topic. Ill read the whole thing later but thus far seems to have the same problem; a couple specific people trolling what otherwise is an acceptable discussion.

[J T]

Guys, obviously we're missing where someone was forced to buy entertainment at gunpoint, lest their family be murdered in front of them. Or was it that if they don't play new games every 60 days the bus will explode? Nono wait, they're addicted to games and if they don't have their fix they can't function for the day. Shit, consume entertainment or god kills a kitten? I can't keep it all straight guys.

There's an asteroid hurtling towards Earth and the only thing that will stop it is if we play many video games with an 80+ rating on metacritic that also manage to meet our own personal definition of quality.