the question of emulation?!

[Majors]

It would be just like having a CD and ripping/playing an MP3 of the music.

Didn't RIAA say that was illegal?

I do it too of course. Remember the issue selling/buying used games a decade ago in Japan? Publishers tried to make that illegal.

[ott0bot]

It would be just like having a CD and ripping/playing an MP3 of the music.

Didn't RIAA say that was illegal?

I do it too of course. Remember the issue selling/buying used games a decade ago in Japan? Publishers tried to make that illegal.

I just took a Music Business copyright class and the law says leagally you are allow to make 5 copies of an audio CD. But you are not allowed to play it in public or distribute it. You can get permission and/or pay royaltee fees in order do any kind of public performance, reproduciton or distribution. The are actual several different sets of copyrights protecting the artist and companies like ascap and bmi who collect royaltees for the artist.

Movies and games fall under different copyright laws and I don't believe there is any allowance for making back ups or ripping the media to you computer.

There are legal cases constanly going on in the US court system concerning this and the laws could change at anytime, but thats how it's been for like the past 5 years.

[Mozgus]

Hey, what's going on in this thread?

[arion]

The best emulation has done for me was to introduce snes games i had never played snes much didn know much about it..but thanks to emulation i got to play Dracula X, Final Fantasy 3/6 and super metroid to name a few and i had never played any of the previous games in those series wich i eventually did i still play Castlevania 1 and 3 on the nes from time to time got Final Fantasy 1 and 2 for the gba and 3 for the ds and i finally found a copy of Super metroid for the snes.

The point is if i hadn tried these snes games through emulation i would have never have looked into those series of games and if i ever see dracula X and FF 3/6 for the snes im buying

[opticledilusi0n]

It would be just like having a CD and ripping/playing an MP3 of the music.

I just took a Music Business copyright class and the law says leagally you are allow to make 5 copies of an audio CD. But you are not allowed to play it in public or distribute it. You can get permission and/or pay royaltee fees in order do any kind of public performance, reproduciton or distribution.

so what you are saying is i can copy a cd 5 times (even though there is no counter) and i can't distribute it or play it in public.

but for some reason.... i can go out to a club, play 50 or 60 records in the course of an hour to a hundred or more people and not get in trouble (even if there are police present) .

do these laws not apply for analog mediums ? or are dj's in existence because they mix and change the tracks in some way ?

and as an aside, why aren't all of the cd/mp3 [wedding] dj's being sued to the hilt ?

[ott0bot]

so what you are saying is i can copy a cd 5 times (even though there is no counter) and i can't distribute it or play it in public.

but for some reason.... i can go out to a club, play 50 or 60 records in the course of an hour to a hundred or more people and not get in trouble (even if there are police present) .

do these laws not apply for analog mediums ? or are dj's in existence because they mix and change the tracks in some way ?

and as an aside, why aren't all of the cd/mp3 [wedding] dj's being sued to the hilt ?

Yes it allows for 5 copies. I know there is no way to keep track, but it your property gets searched during an investigation and you have 15 copies of the newest Beyonce cd you'll be fined.

As far as dj's, they can be sued, if the artist persues it. Or BMI or ASCAP can charge them a royaltee fee. Alot of wedding companies pay royaltees or use stuff that is public use(pre 1973, that hasn't had its publishing and mechanical rights renewed). Bigger name dj's sometimes get permission or the muscian allows it because, heck, who doesn't want there track being played at a club. Some recored companies also send promo's to dj's and radio stations so they will play them. iTunes dj's have no right to play the tracks in public, they just aren't getting caught. There is also a fair use exclusion that allows things to be used for educational purposes.

[racketboy]

It would be just like having a CD and ripping/playing an MP3 of the music.

Didn't RIAA say that was illegal?

I do it too of course. Remember the issue selling/buying used games a decade ago in Japan? Publishers tried to make that illegal.

That's what they want you to think.
Funny thing is, the RIAA doesn't get to pass laws.

[ott0bot]

Hey, what's going on in this thread?

I know WTF.

[RCBH928]

i know this turned into from using emulation to copy right laws...but if that is what you said, and the creator of something choses to do whatever he wants with his creation...i do agree like I can make a painting and keep it for myself, or make just one copy...but things like whole sale distribution ...u already made 10's of thousands of copies, what will it hurt u to make a bit more...

The idea comes to me that,,,this also means no one is aloud to recreate his creation...things like movies and games this is very understandable....but can you think of a band singing Michael Jackson song? If this is the law, then every one who sings a song in public, then he should pay royalty.....damn capatilists!!

If companies will tell u ,u can pay to enjoy my music only on cd, and more restrictions I think consumers should start to boycott commercial products of such types...because i do understand that if i bought Titanic on DVD, I have to re-buy it for HD Titanic on Blu-ray...but what i do not accept is that I have to pay for it to watch it on my ipod, my dvdplayer, my compuer, and on my psp....i did pay for it!?

[lordofduct]

It would be just like having a CD and ripping/playing an MP3 of the music.

Didn't RIAA say that was illegal?

I do it too of course. Remember the issue selling/buying used games a decade ago in Japan? Publishers tried to make that illegal.

That's what they want you to think.
Funny thing is, the RIAA doesn't get to pass laws.

Yeah, that's the most annoying part about it. Filtering out the nonsense, and the real law.

And none of use are in the professional position to be able to do it really. Even with basic knowledge of law, what any of us interpret it as can't really be held to any grain of salt. It sucks.

That's why I say, "I'm probably breaking the law, some of what I do could be breaking the law, I don't know though... they won't tell me exactly. So screw em'."

I mean shit, if you lie to me about this law, don't tell me another law, and don't react to yet another law. How can I believe any of it. And I'm certainly not gonna sit on the side and not do anything, I'm still gonna play my games.