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Geez. These EULA threads are almost as bad as piracy and politics threads.
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equalsign wrote:Geez. These EULA threads are almost as bad as piracy and politics threads.
People can't confront the truth. It's a major problem with this country and one of the main reasons corporations and the government can get away with so much of their bullshit.
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Inazuma wrote:
equalsign wrote:Geez. These EULA threads are almost as bad as piracy and politics threads.
People can't confront the truth. It's a major problem with this country and one of the main reasons corporations and the government can get away with so much of their bullshit.
<sigh> Inazuma, have you ever stopped to realize that statements like this come across exactly the same as an evangelical Christian talking about the truth of Jesus?
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MrPopo wrote:Well today they enforce it by requiring updated firmware for the latest games and keeping you off the PSN if you don't upgrade. Everyone who bitches about not being able to access those features without upgrading gets no sympathy from me, as those are the terms of the contract you agreed to.
So, it's really more of a "breach of contract" then. I give up newer games and PSN access and they give up a patron. No harm done, except for the business lost on their part.
MrPopo wrote:Way to generalize. Plus, it doesn't matter how emotionally mature you might be when it comes to contract law, unless you can prove mental incompetence.
I know, it was a jerky statement (and one I aim at myself first), but one I find quite amusing nonetheless.

I'm certain that I'll never be in the situation to make my case in the courtroom, I'd be eaten alive I'm sure.
But I'm a very small fish...
...and the bigger fish are getting more elusive.

I still say that until companies are ready to evolve like the hackers are, there's always going to be a rift between them.

I'm actually not here to pick a fight or anything...
(dang, why AM I here)
Think of me as more passive resistance. I don't have to like something, but I don't have to play by those rules either. Sometimes that means I just don't play the game altogether. But most of the time, no one is going to care what I do.

I'm also being vague for a reason, (it's none of anybody else's business what I do either). Sorry if I'm hard to follow though.

For the record, I identify with most of what Niode and Inazuma have said. And I only say that because I think it's important for people and the industry to realize that there's a lot of us that feel this way. We are a portion of the market that they are totally losing out on. And usually, we find a way to get what we want, with or without their help (or discouragement). Patience seems to be the main requirement for us.

I'll shut up for now (not in a mad way, I just tell myself that). Feel free to pick apart my few posts further (have the last say and whatnot). I'll read them. But I'm done posting in this thread, I think.
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MrPopo wrote:
Inazuma wrote:
equalsign wrote:Geez. These EULA threads are almost as bad as piracy and politics threads.
People can't confront the truth. It's a major problem with this country and one of the main reasons corporations and the government can get away with so much of their bullshit.
<sigh> Inazuma, have you ever stopped to realize that statements like this come across exactly the same as an evangelical Christian talking about the truth of Jesus?
So what? What I said was actually true, unfortunately. I really wish I was wrong. Please tell me that I am wrong. Seriously, I don't want to be right this time.

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Inazuma wrote: So what? What I said was actually true, unfortunately. I really wish I was wrong. Please tell me that I am wrong. Seriously, I don't want to be right this time.

The occupy protests are helping to educating the masses, but it's not enough.
So you mean your version of the truth or opinion? Because I basically disagree with most of what you say, and I think of myself as an intelligent and educated person...
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Inazuma wrote:
MrPopo wrote:
Inazuma wrote:People can't confront the truth. It's a major problem with this country and one of the main reasons corporations and the government can get away with so much of their bullshit.
<sigh> Inazuma, have you ever stopped to realize that statements like this come across exactly the same as an evangelical Christian talking about the truth of Jesus?
So what? What I said was actually true, unfortunately. I really wish I was wrong. Please tell me that I am wrong. Seriously, I don't want to be right this time.

The occupy protests are helping to educating the masses, but it's not enough.
Stop worrying about the "truth" and worry instead about facts. You'll come off as much less abrasive and might actually convince people to your viewpoint. But you might also have people come to different conclusions than you do.
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Jmustang1968 wrote:
Inazuma wrote: So what? What I said was actually true, unfortunately. I really wish I was wrong. Please tell me that I am wrong. Seriously, I don't want to be right this time.

The occupy protests are helping to educating the masses, but it's not enough.
So you mean your version of the truth or opinion? Because I basically disagree with most of what you say, and I think of myself as an intelligent and educated person...
If you are intelligent and educated, you would be able to use logic to figure this out.

First off, some facts. The US government, bankers and many major corporations are corrupt. They are all working together to benefit themselves, even though it makes things much worse for the other 99% of the population.

Now what if most Americans knew about this? Obviously, we would have enough support to do something about it and fix it.

What if most Americans either didn't know, or they choose not to think about it because it's unpleasant? It's no surprise that the corruption would continue mostly unopposed.

Guess which one is the current reality? The sad truth is that most people prefer to live in a fantasy world, and not concern themselves with serious big time bullshit like this. Sure, they would prefer if things were better, but they don't actually care enough to think about it much. They push it out of their minds and try to pretend like these problems don't exist. Also, a very large amount of people believe what they hear from the TV news and newspapers, so they aren't even aware of the problem to begin with.

Once again, I wish I was wrong about this. I would love for the American people to become aware of this corruption, confront it, and work together to put a stop to it.
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Inazuma wrote:First off, some facts. The US government, bankers and many major corporations are corrupt. They are all working together to benefit themselves, even though it makes things much worse for the other 99% of the population.
See, Inazuma, I'm with you, but things like this make it hard. The above statement is a judgment call, not a matter of "facts". "Corrupt" is a subjective label. I happen to agree with you 100% about everything you listed, but it'd be better to show incidences of corruption (of which there are plenty) then just state it matter of factly.

@Noise: Not really relevant here.
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o.pwuaioc wrote: @Noise: Not really relevant here.
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