SATURN reading games as audio cd's - PLZ HELP!

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Okay, so I just bought the console off of eBay a week ago. I hooked it up, replaced the battery, and everything seemed to run just fine; so I already left positive feedback. I'd like to try and fix this myself before going through any hassle trying to make a return.

My first game, NiGHTS, arrived today. Excitedly, I popped the disc in, only to have the Saturn load the game as an audio cd rather than an actual game disc.

I thought maybe it was just a dusty lens, so I gently cleaned it with a q-tip. No good, the problem still persists.

So I googled up a solution, and the best thing I could find came from this forum:

http://www.fixya.com/support/t492541-se ... boot_games

I know what's causing the problem--the spindle motor for the CD's doesn't spin fast enough to read the disc properly; this usually happens when the system gets hit too hard or is dropped. This causes games to recognized as audio CD's and also causes the tracks to play improperly (there will be complete silence when a track is played and possibly some static at the beginning and the cubes an the sides of the display will be distorted and blown up.IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN THEN DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS.)Before starting, make sure the system is plugged in, there's no controller connected, and the system is NOT hooked up to a tv. Okay, now this is where it gets complicated. first, take the top of the system off and locate the disc drive switch. Depending on which model your console is, it'll be in different places. On the newer model (the one that has a PC board on the top cover), it'll be on a small PC board on the opposite side. On the older model (the one that has all the PC boards on the bottom), it's sticking up out of the metal plate between the two PC boards(the little clear plastic thing with copper plates inside). Either way, the switch needs to be held down or taped down.(I suggest taping it, but it may not work with the older system.) There are a few little variable resistors (little upright disc-shaped things) on the top left corner of the exposed circuit board (the one with the CD lens on it). Try adjusting those with a small flat-head screwdriver with the system turned ON and a CD on the spindle. Be CAREFUL--do NOT touch the CD while it's moving and keep your hands away from the PC board on the left--It WILL shock you. Adjust the resistors untill the CD spins the fastest. If the CD stops spinning, pull off and then replace the tape. If it doesn't spin at all in the first place, check the tape. Once you get it spinning as fast as possible, hook the system back up to your television WITHOUT replacing the cover. If it reconizes the CD as a game, your done and you can close it up. If it thinks its an audio CD or doesn't read it at all, the resistors need more adjusting. This work can be very trying and dangerous; this method can also ruin your system, but it's the only way to make it work without replacing any parts, but it DOES work. If you have any questions, ask me.
I opened my Saturn thinking I knew what I was doing enough to try this out. But honestly, I'm a little in over my head, and don't have much of a clue how to go about this.

I was wondering if anyone here could possibly explain this solution (I'm nervous about fiddling around w/ the console while it's plugged in... that doesn't sound quite right to me), or anything else that might work in the simplest terms possible.

My experience with this sort of stuff goes about as far as cleaning out controllers, and fixing my open latch/re-connecting the controller ports on my ps1 - so please lamens terms only.

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The console is a MK-80000A

and here's what it looks like inside (I'm willing to take more pics if needed):

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THANKS A BUNCH TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME. I'm really at a loss here.
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Try unplugging, cleaning, and reseating both ends of the white ribbon cable. I see a lot of dirt around the power button and spindle area, so maybe this spent some time unloved in a garage or somewhere and the connections are a bit corroded.
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Took your suggestion. Still getting this whenever I try to load NiGHTS:

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Anyone else have any idea what it could be?

Just looked at the auction. No returns. :(
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did you give another game a shot? maybe its just the game disc itself.. :(
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It's the only Saturn game I own, and nobody else I know owns the console.

The game only has a few light scratches anyhow.
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If there's a bad enough spot on the Table of Contents it can be a problem though. That's not good that it is showing a crazy time like that. Will it play an actual audio CD ok?
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Nintendork666 wrote:It's the only Saturn game I own, and nobody else I know owns the console.

The game only has a few light scratches anyhow.
I'm going to take a step back and ask if the region of the Saturn and the region of the disk are the same. If you put an import disk into a Saturn, the CD screen will show up.

And I'd just grab a cheap sports title and see if it's the disk that has been giving you trouble this whole time. I've had some that will give me the CD screen 3 out of 4 times, then boot up.
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Tried 3 different music cd's, each one gave me the same screen as NiGHTS. fuck
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Good chance that the laser assembly needs adjustment/cleaning. Or even that the drive is dead. Will it PLAY the audio CDs?
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