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I'm mostly into:
- Black metal, especially the early-mid 90s Norwegian scene and modern day atmospheric stuff.
- Death metal, mainly old-school Swedish and American bands and some technical shit like Cynic, Atheist, The Chasm, etc. Not really into much gore/slam shit.
- Doom metal, I really dig the early 90s British scene (Anathema, My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost) and modern day funeral doom.
- Some classic thrash like Slayer, Morbid Saint, Kreator, and early Sepultura.
- Political crusty grindcore like Napalm Death, Assuck, Nasum, and others.
And I'm sure I'm forgetting lots of other shit. Haven't really had time to read this thread yet, but I shall do so now.
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There's a reason there's so many different sub-genres of metal. It's all metal, and everyone is different. If we all liked the same bands, metal would suck. I'm glad it has the huge amount of variety that it does have.baphomet_irl wrote:I hate to sound like a Grumpy Old Man, but I do think we need a seperate thread for what people of my generation consider 'real metal' :p
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I can listen to any metal from the 70s to current, mainstream, underground, or radio-friendly without having to resort to being a metal snob.
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Agreed. I can't say I find much newer metal appealing. The only new releases I buy are from either bands that were around in the 70's/80's, Made up of members of bands that were around in the 70's/80's or the occasional resurgence bands that play in the older style of bands from the 70's/80's.baphomet_irl wrote:I hate to sound like a Grumpy Old Man, but I do think we need a seperate thread for what people of my generation consider 'real metal' :p
please dont flame me
Here's some recent stuff I bought:
Arch/Matheos: Sympathetic Resonace - This is a dream come true to have the original singer from Fates Warning back again with the guitarist from Fates Warning. John Arch is in top form even after over 20 years out of the scene, still singing his unique style, with strange scale progression and all. Matheos on the otherhand playing is exactly the same as recent FW stuff, which to some is good but I find the newerer style of progressive metal boring. Thankfully the singing makes up for the music and the drumming is very good. I haven't heard Bobby Jazombek drum this well since his days in his brothers band Spastic Ink.
Realm: Endless War - For those who are tired of basic thrash give this band a shot who adds a lot of technical and progressive elements. Very similiar sound to Toxik.
Warbringer: Worlds Torn Asunder - This is one of the newer thrash bands. Can't I say I really like them but they are okay, and this is the better of their three releases.
Rigor Mortis: Vs. the Earth - This album is a mixed bag, it goes from slayeresque sounding to more of a crossover sound in the vein of D.R.I.. Its not their best release but there are a few decent tracks and a much better recording quality than their debut.
Saxon: Call to Arms - this is my first foray into newer Saxon works and I must say I am pleasently surprised. Its a lot heavier than their 70's and 80's stuff. Sounds a little modern but retaining their original style. I recommend this album to fans of Judas Priest, Angel Witch and Accept.
Assaulter: Boundless - another one of the resurgence thrash bands but they add a decent dose of black metal. Its worth a listen and reminds me of the first releases by Sepultura, Kreator, and Sodom, but with better recording production. I think fans of Warbringer and Vector will like them.
Charred Walls of the Damned: Cold Winds on Timeless Days - a dream line-up of sorts with Tim Owens on vocals, Richard Christy (ex-iced earth and death) on drums, and the almighty bass whore of metal Steve DiGiorgio (has any metal bassist been in more bands?). Their first release was pretty good a heavy power-thrash mix. This releases is even better but hard to place the genre. I hear so many influnces, its kinda a Power/Thrash/Techinical/Death/Progressive mix. For those who don't like Tim Owens give this album a shot and you might change your mind. The closest band I could compare this group to is Control Denied.
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I know it's not rational, but I cant help it o_OBurningDoom wrote:There's a reason there's so many different sub-genres of metal. It's all metal, and everyone is different. If we all liked the same bands, metal would suck. I'm glad it has the huge amount of variety that it does have.baphomet_irl wrote:I hate to sound like a Grumpy Old Man, but I do think we need a seperate thread for what people of my generation consider 'real metal' :p
please dont flame me
I can listen to any metal from the 70s to current, mainstream, underground, or radio-friendly without having to resort to being a metal snob.
just all this clear vocally stuff, blastbeats behind poppy melodies and whingey self analysis lyrics (and I'm not referring to stuff in this thread per se, but just the nightmare I have to hear the occasional time I flick through Scuzz etc. on TV (and no I'm not talking about the stuff that's considered totally poppy either)). Metal for me was always a totally powerful, and indeed empowering antithesis of that mentality. It also was usually UNCOMPROMISINGLY 'untrendy' and timeless - a lot of these groups seem completely hollow/all image...
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I think you're looking through nostalgia goggles here. Metal has always had a popular side to it, nothing has changed: Black Sabbath, Kiss, The Scorpions, AC/DC, like every 80s hair metal band, Metallica, 90s Grunge, Nu-Metal, Korn, and on and on.baphomet_irl wrote:I know it's not rational, but I cant help it o_OBurningDoom wrote:There's a reason there's so many different sub-genres of metal. It's all metal, and everyone is different. If we all liked the same bands, metal would suck. I'm glad it has the huge amount of variety that it does have.baphomet_irl wrote:I hate to sound like a Grumpy Old Man, but I do think we need a seperate thread for what people of my generation consider 'real metal' :p
please dont flame me
I can listen to any metal from the 70s to current, mainstream, underground, or radio-friendly without having to resort to being a metal snob.
just all this clear vocally stuff, blastbeats behind poppy melodies and whingey self analysis lyrics (and I'm not referring to stuff in this thread per se, but just the nightmare I have to hear the occasional time I flick through Scuzz etc. on TV (and no I'm not talking about the stuff that's considered totally poppy either)). Metal for me was always a totally powerful, and indeed empowering antithesis of that mentality. It also was usually UNCOMPROMISINGLY 'untrendy' and timeless - a lot of these groups seem completely hollow/all image...
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I can listen to the bands I mentioned above that are popular. But I also love bands like Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Nightwish, Demons & Wizards, Dimmu Borgir, God Dethroned, and others.
I think what you mean to say here is that you have a very narrow view on what metal is and are unwilling to accept anything that doesn't your personal criteria for being metal. I can understand, believe me. When I was in Jr. High, early high school it was all about the Thrash Metal, and nothing else IMO even mattered. But as I grew and experienced more metal and learned more about it I was opened up to entirely new sub-genres that gave a huge variety of metal music to listen to.
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yep I see your point about popularity and it's not necessarily popularity I'm moaning about (I'm a huge Slayer, first 4 MetallicA albums and PanterA fan (and they are definitely 'popular')). But they just seem to have a certain 'realness'/doing it for the right reasons element that the particular type of crud on the TV I was talking about dont. While I love AC/DC - I'd never call them metal - more hard rock/r'n'b (in the original sense of the term). KoRn I cannot speak of in any way other than a stream of profanities :p .BurningDoom wrote:
I think you're looking through nostalgia goggles here. Metal has always had a popular side to it, nothing has changed: Black Sabbath, Kiss, The Scorpions, AC/DC, like every 80s hair metal band, Metallica, 90s Grunge, Nu-Metal, Korn, and on and on.
I can listen to the bands I mentioned above that are popular. But I also love bands like Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Nightwish, Demons & Wizards, Dimmu Borgir, God Dethroned, and others.
I think what you mean to say here is that you have a very narrow view on what metal is and are unwilling to accept anything that doesn't your personal criteria for being metal. I can understand, believe me. When I was in Jr. High, early high school it was all about the Thrash Metal, and nothing else IMO even mattered. But as I grew and experienced more metal and learned more about it I was opened up to entirely new sub-genres that gave a huge variety of metal music to listen to.
I love Amon Amarth though deffo - I was at their gig here about 6 months ago - great stuff.
And yeah haha overall I still am that 13 year old kid writing stuff on his pencilcase (though to be honest back then I was only really into punk type stuff and the only metallic stuff I was into was when this crossed over (Ministry, DRI, Sucidal Tendencies etc.), I actually only fully embraced metal on it's own fairly late in my teens.
I like LOADS of different types of metal, as long as it's Black, Thrash or Viking
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Just wanted to say that I pointed Korn out as being a popular band. I Didn't mean to lump them in with bands I like. That's the one band up there I don't like, I despise them.baphomet_irl wrote:yep I see your point about popularity and it's not necessarily popularity I'm moaning about (I'm a huge Slayer, first 4 MetallicA albums and PanterA fan (and they are definitely 'popular')). But they just seem to have a certain 'realness'/doing it for the right reasons element that the particular type of crud on the TV I was talking about dont. While I love AC/DC - I'd never call them metal - more hard rock/r'n'b (in the original sense of the term). KoRn I cannot speak of in any way other than a stream of profanities :p .BurningDoom wrote:
I think you're looking through nostalgia goggles here. Metal has always had a popular side to it, nothing has changed: Black Sabbath, Kiss, The Scorpions, AC/DC, like every 80s hair metal band, Metallica, 90s Grunge, Nu-Metal, Korn, and on and on.
I can listen to the bands I mentioned above that are popular. But I also love bands like Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Nightwish, Demons & Wizards, Dimmu Borgir, God Dethroned, and others.
I think what you mean to say here is that you have a very narrow view on what metal is and are unwilling to accept anything that doesn't your personal criteria for being metal. I can understand, believe me. When I was in Jr. High, early high school it was all about the Thrash Metal, and nothing else IMO even mattered. But as I grew and experienced more metal and learned more about it I was opened up to entirely new sub-genres that gave a huge variety of metal music to listen to.
I love Amon Amarth though deffo - I was at their gig here about 6 months ago - great stuff.
And yeah haha overall I still am that 13 year old kid writing stuff on his pencilcase (though to be honest back then I was only really into punk type stuff and the only metallic stuff I was into was when this crossed over (Ministry, DRI, Sucidal Tendencies etc.), I actually only fully embraced metal on it's own fairly late in my teens.
I like LOADS of different types of metal, as long as it's Black, Thrash or Viking
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haha no worries I did have to take a double take when I read them in the sentence :pBurningDoom wrote:Just wanted to say that I pointed Korn out as being a popular band. I Didn't mean to lump them in with bands I like. That's the one band up there I don't like, I despise them.baphomet_irl wrote:yep I see your point about popularity and it's not necessarily popularity I'm moaning about (I'm a huge Slayer, first 4 MetallicA albums and PanterA fan (and they are definitely 'popular')). But they just seem to have a certain 'realness'/doing it for the right reasons element that the particular type of crud on the TV I was talking about dont. While I love AC/DC - I'd never call them metal - more hard rock/r'n'b (in the original sense of the term). KoRn I cannot speak of in any way other than a stream of profanities :p .BurningDoom wrote:
I think you're looking through nostalgia goggles here. Metal has always had a popular side to it, nothing has changed: Black Sabbath, Kiss, The Scorpions, AC/DC, like every 80s hair metal band, Metallica, 90s Grunge, Nu-Metal, Korn, and on and on.
I can listen to the bands I mentioned above that are popular. But I also love bands like Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Nightwish, Demons & Wizards, Dimmu Borgir, God Dethroned, and others.
I think what you mean to say here is that you have a very narrow view on what metal is and are unwilling to accept anything that doesn't your personal criteria for being metal. I can understand, believe me. When I was in Jr. High, early high school it was all about the Thrash Metal, and nothing else IMO even mattered. But as I grew and experienced more metal and learned more about it I was opened up to entirely new sub-genres that gave a huge variety of metal music to listen to.
I love Amon Amarth though deffo - I was at their gig here about 6 months ago - great stuff.
And yeah haha overall I still am that 13 year old kid writing stuff on his pencilcase (though to be honest back then I was only really into punk type stuff and the only metallic stuff I was into was when this crossed over (Ministry, DRI, Sucidal Tendencies etc.), I actually only fully embraced metal on it's own fairly late in my teens.
I like LOADS of different types of metal, as long as it's Black, Thrash or Viking
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New Iced Earth video: Dystopia, from the brand new album of the same name:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwW9IVwZ0U
Heard a bit of this album already, Anthem is another great track from it. New singer, yet again; but he's good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwW9IVwZ0U
Heard a bit of this album already, Anthem is another great track from it. New singer, yet again; but he's good.
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Now you guys are speaking my language (and no I don't have nostalgia goggles, I just really got into old metal several years ago).pepharytheworm wrote:Agreed. I can't say I find much newer metal appealing. The only new releases I buy are from either bands that were around in the 70's/80's, Made up of members of bands that were around in the 70's/80's or the occasional resurgence bands that play in the older style of bands from the 70's/80's.baphomet_irl wrote:I hate to sound like a Grumpy Old Man, but I do think we need a seperate thread for what people of my generation consider 'real metal' :p
please dont flame me
Here's some recent stuff I bought:
Arch/Matheos: Sympathetic Resonace - This is a dream come true to have the original singer from Fates Warning back again with the guitarist from Fates Warning. John Arch is in top form even after over 20 years out of the scene, still singing his unique style, with strange scale progression and all. Matheos on the otherhand playing is exactly the same as recent FW stuff, which to some is good but I find the newerer style of progressive metal boring. Thankfully the singing makes up for the music and the drumming is very good. I haven't heard Bobby Jazombek drum this well since his days in his brothers band Spastic Ink.
Realm: Endless War - For those who are tired of basic thrash give this band a shot who adds a lot of technical and progressive elements. Very similiar sound to Toxik.
Warbringer: Worlds Torn Asunder - This is one of the newer thrash bands. Can't I say I really like them but they are okay, and this is the better of their three releases.
Rigor Mortis: Vs. the Earth - This album is a mixed bag, it goes from slayeresque sounding to more of a crossover sound in the vein of D.R.I.. Its not their best release but there are a few decent tracks and a much better recording quality than their debut.
Saxon: Call to Arms - this is my first foray into newer Saxon works and I must say I am pleasently surprised. Its a lot heavier than their 70's and 80's stuff. Sounds a little modern but retaining their original style. I recommend this album to fans of Judas Priest, Angel Witch and Accept.
Assaulter: Boundless - another one of the resurgence thrash bands but they add a decent dose of black metal. Its worth a listen and reminds me of the first releases by Sepultura, Kreator, and Sodom, but with better recording production. I think fans of Warbringer and Vector will like them.
Charred Walls of the Damned: Cold Winds on Timeless Days - a dream line-up of sorts with Tim Owens on vocals, Richard Christy (ex-iced earth and death) on drums, and the almighty bass whore of metal Steve DiGiorgio (has any metal bassist been in more bands?). Their first release was pretty good a heavy power-thrash mix. This releases is even better but hard to place the genre. I hear so many influnces, its kinda a Power/Thrash/Techinical/Death/Progressive mix. For those who don't like Tim Owens give this album a shot and you might change your mind. The closest band I could compare this group to is Control Denied.
Dunno what to think of Arch/Matheos myself, but I'm a huge fan of Arch era Fates Warning. Have you heard Cauldron Born's debut though? It's like if early Fates Warning and Omen had a baby... insane stuff.
Realm is amazing, I like Toxik a lot more though. I'm not sure which album of theirs I prefer though, both the Toxik albums are pretty different but equally amazing. The vocalist on the second album is so good, a one hit wonder.
Rigor Mortis' debut rips my head off. And the VOCALS, holy shit that guy has an awesome monstrous voice without sounding silly. He just sounds like a fucking viking or something.
Tim Owens isn't bad. I'm not an Iced Earth fan at all though. I think Tim's best work was with Winters Bane's debut, great stuff.
Satan's Host is something all of you guys should check out, nice blend of traditional/black/death or something, who cares, it's just metal! Harry Conklin is one of my favorite vocalists. They're working on a compilation album now with a lot of old re-recorded tracks, I'm pretty stoked:
Conklin was amazing in Jag Panzer (Ample Destruction is one of my favorites) and Titan Force.
