Judge William Adams is a child abuser

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o.pwuaioc wrote:
samsonlonghair wrote:Nonetheless, it is normal, traditional, and within the boundaries of the law.
So was child labor.
The feral, uncivilized, lazy children with expected dependency bred into them by the state multiplying in every American city could stand some "child labor".... turn our juvie halls into tech factories churning out Ipads so we can compete with the Eastern labor force. Reduce crime and stimulate the economy.... Bikeage for Prez 2012.

And anyone who remotely defends the actions taken in that video can go to hell. For better or worse many of us here, including myself, have at some point in our childhood or adolescence received a vicious beating by a parent or guardian. Personally, if you were old enough to piss standing up and medical attention was not needed.... Boo fucking Hoo, it's how I learned to take a punch...at least dad taught me something useful. But striking your cerebral palsy afflicted daughter is indefensible.
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Bikeage wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:
samsonlonghair wrote:Nonetheless, it is normal, traditional, and within the boundaries of the law.
So was child labor.
The feral, uncivilized, lazy the children with expected dependency bred into them by the state being bred in every American city could stand some "child labor".... turn our juvie halls into tech factories churning out Ipads so we can compete with the Eastern labor force. Reduce crime and stimulate the economy.... Bikeage for Prez 2012.
I absolutely love the child labor radio stuff on Grand Theft Auto III.
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MrPopo wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:
samsonlonghair wrote:Nonetheless, it is normal, traditional, and within the boundaries of the law.
So was child labor.
And no, it's not within the boundaries of the law. The only reason no prosecution is going forward is because the statute of limitations is passed.
The statute of limitations is the given reason, but not the only reason. According to the Texas Attorney General,
Texas Attorney General wrote:Any form of corporal punishment may be abusive if it results in injury.
It's not enough for the prosecutor to prove that the father belts his child; the prosecutor must prove that this corporal punishment has caused injury. The Youtube video does not show proof of injury.
See chapter 261 of the Texas family code. link

Remember that Texas still allows capital punishment. Where did you get the idea that corporal punishment is not within the bounds of the law?
Bikeage wrote:And anyone who remotely defends the actions taken in that video can go to hell. For better or worse many of us here, including myself, have at some point in our childhood or adolescence received a vicious beating by a parent or guardian. Personally, if you were old enough to piss standing up and medical attention was not needed.... Boo fucking Hoo, it's how I learned to take a punch...at least dad taught me something useful. But striking your cerebral palsy afflicted daughter is indefensible.
Finally someone makes a real argument! We've all been beaten. It's the Cerebral Palsy aspect that makes this so disgusting. Fuck judge Adams for hitting his palsy-afflicted daughter. I just don't believe there's legal ground to prosecute him for child abuse.

Honestly, I believe his daughter probably should have socked him back; That's when my parents stopped hitting me.
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You say that you were abused, but you turned out ok. You then use this line of reasoning as grounds for defending your belief that parents should be allowed to beat their children.

The critical flaw in your logic is that the fact that you now think you should be allowed to beat your children MEANS YOU DIDN'T TURN OUT OK.
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J T wrote:You say that you were abused, but you turned out ok. You then use this line of reasoning as grounds for defending your belief that parents should be allowed to beat their children.

The critical flaw in your logic is that the fact that you now think you should be allowed to beat your children MEANS YOU DIDN'T TURN OUT OK.
Incorrect. Also, don't shout at me.

I do not beat my children. I was an abused child who grew up to not be an abuser. That's why I lack sympathy for everyone who claims their lives were ruined by abuse. I got it just as rough as anyone else, but I'm fine. I don't believe that I should beat my children at all.

I do think that there's no legal standing for prosecuting Judge Addams. He did not break the law. It's not illegal to belt your children in Texas. I do think Judge Addams is a jerk; I do not think he is a criminal.

I understand that watching a video like this provokes an emotional reaction from many of you. It brought me back bad old memories too. Then I took a deep breath and moved on. I forgave my parents for the crap they put me through. They're only human after-all.
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samsonlonghair wrote:Remember that Texas still allows capital punishment. Where did you get the idea that corporal punishment is not within the bounds of the law?
Where did you get the idea that apples can be compared to oranges?
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Why do people think it is so great to lack sympathy for others? Seriously, not just in this thread, but in a lot of other areas on and off racketboy, I keep hearing people take this tough guy attitude that because people's lives could always be worse, they should never complain about anything ever. It seems to always pop up in any conversation that challenges the status quo. It's like the slightest mention that the world could possibly be a better place is taken as a personal affront and is met with a defensive "You get what you deserve! Shut the fuck up and stop being a whiny little bitch. You think life is hard? I'll show you hard. You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about." This is such a highly counterproductive attitude. The world COULD become a better place in so many areas, but the slightest rock of the boat and out comes the whip. "Shut up liberal whiner! Bleeding heart pussy! Coddled baby! Everything is fine. EVERYTHING IS JUST FINE!"

Yeah. Sure it is. You're living proof. :roll:

Seriously, I'm just so shocked that I even have to defend myself when I say something like "child abuse is wrong".
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J T wrote:Seriously, I'm just so shocked that I even have to defend myself when I say something like "child abuse is wrong".
Same here, this argument is surreal. Playing devil's advocate is one thing but this thread is just fucking nuts to me.
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J T wrote:Why do people think it is so great to lack sympathy for others?

Anonymity.

I do think a "when you're feeling down, remember someone else has it worse around" is a fine statement when followed by encouragement, but I agree misery should never become a pissing contest. The bottom line to this thread is personal opinion, which will always differ from person to person as experience molds our opinions.

All of us have our own moral "odometer" (I don't know, I'm bad at analogies and that came to mind first) to which there is a point where we wouldn't "go over". This man who is held, and should be held, to higher moral standards (it's what he gets paid for) beat and berated a child. Simple as that to me. Had this act been carried out in public (at the time) he would have been sent to jail if someone witnessed the beating and verbal assault.


The only thing I want to see come out of this is that people think twice before raising a hand or cursing at their children.
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J T wrote:You say that you were abused, but you turned out ok. You then use this line of reasoning as grounds for defending your belief that parents should be allowed to beat their children.

The critical flaw in your logic is that the fact that you now think you should be allowed to beat your children MEANS YOU DIDN'T TURN OUT OK.
THIS!!

Along with Luke's insight about anonymity. Kudos to you both.

I am the kind of man that likes a good ol' explicitly violent action flick at times. Hell, I even enjoyed the first few Saw films.

But I cannot watch the video clip of this incident. I honestly, truly cannot, without feeling sick and disturbed. :?

Anyone who thinks physical contact is a necessity for disciplining children is, frankly, unintelligent. Period.
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