Redundant usage of abbreviations (>_<)

[Hobie-wan]

Technically it is "Wendy's Old Fashioned Hamburgers" for the restaurant.

I still maintain that when referring to a business that is in whole or partly comprised of a person's name it is awkward to say you are going to X as opposed to X's (with an implied store/building/whatnot). If I'm swinging by for a visit I don't say I'm going to Luke, but I'm going to Luke's or to Luke's house.

[Inazuma]

It seems like "ain't" can be used as isn't OR don't.

That sounds about right. Not like it matters that much anyway. It's not a real word and there is no good reason to use ain't, unless you are pretending to be stupid.

That reminds me of when I finished an English class in high school. The teacher asked what I thought about the class and my response was something like "This class learned me to speak English more gooder.".

[Luke]

...but I'm going to Luke's or to Luke's house.

Dude, you should have told me. I haven't vacuumed the game room since Monday, and I only made enough quiche for two. And don't get me started on the kitchen counters.

[The Last Horseman]

I use "Do what now" a lot, and I use ain't a lot, but I can't help it. That's not poor education, that's just how I was raised. Even a lot of college proffesors I know use those.

Teaching something that is incorrect is poor education. Just because you were raised by people who had poor English skills, doesn't change the fact that it's poor English.

I was raised to think being gay was bad. That's poor education.

What does "ain't" mean anyway? What two words is it a contraction of? My best guess is that it's an ignorant version of "don't". Either way, it makes something negative, so if you follow it with another negative, the two negatives cancel each other out and you are left with a positive.

If you don't want to be viewed as ignorant by others, stop being ignorant. Teach yourself to say "don't" instead of "ain't". You can break old habits if you try hard enough. I recently learned about the correct pronunciation for the word "often", and managed to change my pronunciation.

.... ain't is another version of isn't. I've heard it used to replace don't, but I don't do it. It's not poor education, because I was always corrected for saying it, and I still do to spite people for trying to force onto me the fact it is wrong. I consider you ignorant if you can't accept the fact others are raised differently, and may have different opinions.

If you don't want to be viewed as ignorant, don't talk to me like that. I know its the internet, and there ain't anything I can do about it, but it is rude, disrepectful, and shows me your parents did not raise you to my standards. I would rather have someone that is respectful and does not insult others intelligence, than someone who has correct speech and grammar and doesn't use ain't. Also, ain't no reason I'm going to stop because you told me to.

[Luke]

I know its the internet, and there ain't anything I can do about it, but it is rude, disrepectful, and shows me your parents did not raise you to my standards.

Now that's not necessary.

Izzy was simply stating that parents who don't speak proper English in front of their children usually raise children who will not speak proper English. No need to take it personally. And Izzy also points out that we are usually destined to repeat our own parent's mistakes if we do not recognize when our parents are at fault. A poet summed it up very nicely. It's not meant to be self-deprecating or cynical, just stating the facts:

Philip Larkin - This Be The Verse

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

[elmagicochrisg]

I can understand The Last Horseman's reaction, but I'm sure Inazuma didn't mean to be that harsh. Sometimes things just come out wrong. Shake hands and move on guys...

[dsheinem]

I can understand The Last Horseman's reaction, but I'm sure Inazuma didn't mean to be that harsh. Sometimes things just come out wrong. Shake hands and move on guys...

besides, we've drifted away from the OP post.

[Inazuma]

.... ain't is another version of isn't. I've heard it used to replace don't, but I don't do it. It's not poor education, because I was always corrected for saying it, and I still do to spite people for trying to force onto me the fact it is wrong. I consider you ignorant if you can't accept the fact others are raised differently, and may have different opinions.

If you don't want to be viewed as ignorant, don't talk to me like that. I know its the internet, and there ain't anything I can do about it, but it is rude, disrepectful, and shows me your parents did not raise you to my standards. I would rather have someone that is respectful and does not insult others intelligence, than someone who has correct speech and grammar and doesn't use ain't. Also, ain't no reason I'm going to stop because you told me to.

No need to get upset at me personally over this. It's not about me anyway. It's about being open minded. You think you know correct English now, but if you find out later that you're actually wrong, you can change your ways.

I was the same as you. I gave the example of pronouncing the word "often" incorrectly. When I found out that I was wrong, I changed. It's very important to be open minded like this, or else you will end up impeding your own improvement.

I don't mind if you choose to think less of me for saying this. All I ask is that you try to question what you are told and have a desire to improve yourself and others. Don't be stubborn and cling to ignorance just to spite me. I'm just some asshole on the internet.

Also, I don't know how to say this without sounding like an asshole but here goes. Please look up the definitions of the words "fact" and "opinion". It is very important to know the difference.

[noiseredux]

I'm just some asshole on the internet.

this is my favorite thing you've ever said, Izzy. And I'm not being a dick. I genuinely found this chuckle-worthy.

[o.pwuaioc]

One thing we should keep in mind when talking about "correctness" and different ways is that there is no correct way of speaking English. There are only ways which some deem correct and others incorrect. It's all about who ( ) you are talking to.

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Fall_ ... ption.html