Redundant usage of abbreviations (>_<)

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o.pwuaioc wrote:
Luke wrote:Myself and my parents vowed to correct each other on our grammar if we ever slipped up.
Don't you mean "My parents and I"?
"Do what now?"
What's wrong with this grammatically?
I think Myself and my parents would pass, but "My Parents And I" would be correct.


Do what now?
Grammatically? Nothing. The way it sounds...Different story. It's said as one word "duewhadnow? and as I said before, just way "Excuse me?" or "What?" or "Huh?".

Example:

Me- "Are you getting any more scotch tape in stock any time soon?"

clerk- "Do what now?"

1) I didn't ask her to do anything.
2) "what" would suffice as a question.
3) I didn't mention anything about doing anything "now".

No matter what question I ask, I guess from now on I will reply to "Do what now?" with the answer "Dance!".

Luke- Is there another Bank of America ATM near here?
Redneck -"Do what now?"
Luke- Dance!
(and hopefully the redneck will just start dancing).
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Luke wrote:Luke- Is there another Bank of America ATM near here?
Redneck -"Do what now?"
Luke- Dance!
(and hopefully the redneck will just start dancing).
Haha, aw, I miss dem rednecks. I had entirely forgotten they use "do what now" like that.
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Luke wrote: Part of my hang ups on grammar definitely stem from my parents. When we moved to the South, one big culture shock was that even educated people couldn't speak English for shit. Myself and my parents vowed to correct each other on our grammar if we ever slipped up. And sure, a lot of people would say "I seen", "Do what now?", "Ink pen" (for some reason people have to ask for an 'ink' pen. Perhaps they think I may have a pig pen in my pocket as well and would rather not confuse me) "done did" and a whole lot of "aint's" and double negatives.

As far as the vernacular goes, some of it is cute. "Put it up" means to place something where it belongs; something I learned at my first day at school in the South (I placed the book over my head after being told to 'put it up'). I also learned very quickly that "ho" meant "whore". Every car accident is called a "wreck", and I'm convinced "over yonder" is not a measurable distance. Still, I hate "Do what now?". That's three words said when you could easily just say "Huh?".

Oh! And "gots". "I gots the ball". Shit drove me crazy as a kid.

That said I don't judge people solely on their grammar, but how a person speaks instinctively makes me draw a few assumptions about the person.
I hate when someone's English skills are so poor, they end up saying the opposite of what they want to say.

"I could care less."
"I ain't got no money."

I can't help but think less of these people. I can forgive a few minor mistakes that don't really affect their message, but when it changes drastically, it really bothers me.

Here is another one that I hate hearing:
"Can I axe you a question?"


Sometimes it's fun to pretend these people are correct and continue on with the conversation:

"Wanna go out for a movie?"
"I can't. I ain't got no money."
"What do you mean? If you have money, then you can go, right?"
"I said, I ain't got no money!"
"Right. So you can go."
"I ain't got no money!!"
"Since you have money, do you mind paying for my ticket? I'll pay you back tomorrow."
"Ahhhh!" *head explodes*
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o.pwuaioc wrote: Haha, aw, I miss dem rednecks. I had entirely forgotten they use "do what now" like that.
"Didjahear 'bout Hatfield. Son got in a wreck down yonder near Krogers".
-"Do what now?"
"Ner-you-mind. You ain't kin to him anyways".

But oh boy, a few beers in me and I revert to my mid western accent. It all becomes "Dis", "Dat", "Deez", and "dose".
Theater = Thee-Ay-ter.
Restaurant = Rest-a-rant.
He said to me = You wouldn't believe what Bob says to me. He says to me, you know Bob right? Well Bob says to me, he looks me in the eye, and he says to me; you wouldn't believe what he says to me. So I'm with Bob, and he says to me, looking me in the eye, he says to me, ya know Bob, so just like Bob he says to me, well he was wearing that flannel shirt, and he says to me...Wait, you won't believe this, he says, Bob says to me, in his flannel shirt, so he says to me while looking me in the eye, and he puts out his hand. While shaking his hand, he says to me, you won't believe what Bob said, he says to me....

^"He says to me" It's an old joke perfected by Chris Farley, where you never get to hear what Bob actually said, and the longer it goes on (with the right timing) gets funnier by the minute. It's almost an acid test for a comedian. If you can get people laughing by around 120 seconds into it, you've got some funny in ya. If you can't get at least a smile within a minute, think twice about going on stage.
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Inazuma wrote: "I could care less."
"I ain't got no money."

I can't help but think less of these people. I can forgive a few minor mistakes that don't really affect their message, but when it changes drastically, it really bothers me.

Here is another one that I hate hearing:
"Can I axe you a question?"
We all have our pet peeves when it comes to vernacular. My Father in law HATES the phrase "No problem". To quote "No problem? I would hope not, I just asked for a refill of my Dr.Pepper".

But, these pet peeves also open the door to tons of jokes. I always liked "Keep your priorities crooked".
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Inazuma wrote:I hate when someone's English skills are so poor, they end up saying the opposite of what they want to say.

"I could care less."
"I ain't got no money."

I can't help but think less of these people. I can forgive a few minor mistakes that don't really affect their message, but when it changes drastically, it really bothers me.

Here is another one that I hate hearing:
"Can I axe you a question?"


Sometimes it's fun to pretend these people are correct and continue on with the conversation:

"Wanna go out for a movie?"
"I can't. I ain't got no money."
"What do you mean? If you have money, then you can go, right?"
"I said, I ain't got no money!"
"Right. So you can go."
"I ain't got no money!!"
"Since you have money, do you mind paying for my ticket? I'll pay you back tomorrow."
"Ahhhh!" *head explodes*
Only problem is that double negatives were used extensively in Early Modern English and the shift away from them in England didn't start until after English was already established in America.
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I am saying Kroger's (not Krogers) as a shortening of Kroger's Supermarket/Grocery Store since Bernard Kroger is the name of the founder. You wouldn't say you were going to eat at Wendy, McDonald, or Bob Evan. You aren't going to shop at Fry. When a store's name is a proper noun, it is awkward to just say the name since it is X's Y. If you are going to go eat at Wendy, you're either a zombie or in for an intimate evening.

Never heard anyone say Targets.
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Hobie-wan wrote: If you are going to go eat at Wendy, you're either a zombie or in for an intimate evening.
But it's called Wendy's.

Kroger is not named Kroger's. That's like saying Targets or "I'm going to Banks of Americas". That, or saying, "I'm going to Arby". Shit, I should copyright that. That's a good marketing take on a restaurant tied with an attachment. Q: You don't look so good; you alright? A: I'm okay, but I'm about to go Arby!

I have never heard Best Buys, but it wouldn't surprise me if I did one day.
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Luke wrote:
Hobie-wan wrote: If you are going to go eat at Wendy, you're either a zombie or in for an intimate evening.
But it's called Wendy's.

Kroger is not named Kroger's. That's like saying Targets or "I'm going to Banks of Americas". That, or saying, "I'm going to Arby". Shit, I should copyright that. That's a good marketing take on a restaurant tied with an attachment. Q: You don't look so good; you alright? A: I'm okay, but I'm about to go Arby!

I have never heard Best Buys, but it wouldn't surprise me if I did one day.
Target, Best Buy, BOA are not people's names. What Hobie was pointing out is Wendy's, etc are all named after people and basically a shortening of "Wendy's Restaurant" for instance.
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But it's official name is "The Kroger Co.", not "Kroger's Co.". Wendy's official name is "Wendy's International, Inc."
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