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avrame wrote: Yes, I personally feel that the UAC is a reminder for those that aren't well educated on security and common PC practice. As part of my fresh installs, one of the first things I do is disable UAC, normally even before running Windows update ;)
I leave UAC at the default setting and it's perfectly fine for me. Not annoying at all. Vista's UAC was annoying where I had to turn it off.

You really want to avoid administrator level access where possible unless it's really needed. Otherwise, you give viruses more opportunities to run rogue code. So UAC is a good thing, even for a tech-savvy software guy like me.
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Hatta wrote: UAC is there to warn you if a program tries to take more permissions than you have given it. If you're trusting programs not to alter your system files, you aren't well educated on security and common PC practice.
gtmtnbiker wrote: I leave UAC at the default setting and it's perfectly fine for me. Not annoying at all. Vista's UAC was annoying where I had to turn it off.

You really want to avoid administrator level access where possible unless it's really needed. Otherwise, you give viruses more opportunities to run rogue code. So UAC is a good thing, even for a tech-savvy software guy like me.
True on both counts. I typically work with dabbling in registry editting, and find it necessary to avoid the prompts, but I do deserve that bite-back for suggesting users take a less-secure approach to using the operating system. I was simply acknowledging that fastbilly made a point to Inazuma that UAC is a point of perference which can be disabled if the user seems fit. And as you have both pointed out, it is on for a valid reason, and should not be disabled simple due to it being an 'annoyance'.
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I've got the dev preview on my acer w500 tablet and it's much more touch friendly than the Windows7 load out I had on there before. I really like the OSK options (especially the split one for typing with your thumbs). The new IE with touch interface is pretty good too although it is lacking some major basic functionality like gestures to allow you to go backwards. Instead you have to swipe down the menu and use a back button, kind of silly.

Metro UI is nice, definitely can't wait to see more apps come out for that for some way for me to build my own tiles for other apps.
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deathsled wrote:I've got the dev preview on my acer w500 tablet and it's much more touch friendly than the Windows7 load out I had on there before. I really like the OSK options (especially the split one for typing with your thumbs). The new IE with touch interface is pretty good too although it is lacking some major basic functionality like gestures to allow you to go backwards. Instead you have to swipe down the menu and use a back button, kind of silly.

Metro UI is nice, definitely can't wait to see more apps come out for that for some way for me to build my own tiles for other apps.
Thanks for the feedback, I noticed that as well for the immersive-browser. I will see if a suggestion/feedback was left for that.
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I think this will be for computers, but will be more succesful on touch pads, also, I loved my Windows XP, but I had to get Windows 7, and Im OK with it, but I draw the line at the start SCREEN. Windows just needs to have a start menu, in my opinion. The idea of the portable OS is cool, though. But seriously, With Windows 7 out for only 2 years, we don't need anew OS. Windows 7 is perfectly fine. Also, we all know this will crash and burn, so I'll get Windows 9 when it comes out. My biggest problem is this new idea of a new OS every 5 seconds, we don't need it.
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You do realize with the exception of Windows XP, OS updates come fairly rapidly. Linux distributions typically operate on 1 year cycles. Windows up until XP was every 2-3 or so years. Mac OS has updates around 2-3 years as well.

Technology advances fast enough that I think companies can warrant released a new OS every 2-3 years.

The Start window has been around since 98. Also, I'm there is a check box to stop the "Start" screen from popping up.
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I have trouble believing any report that Vista was "fine". I acquired what was essentially the first Santa rosa chipset laptop and it came with vista installed. Fresh out of the box, copying or deleting files took ages. That damn vista "beachball" was constantly appearing. The computer was virtually unusable.

Formatted and installed XP, which wasn't easy since HP intentionally removed their XP drivers from the website upon vista's release, and the computer was instantly blazing fast.
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Zing wrote:I have trouble believing any report that Vista was "fine". Fresh out of the box ... [t]he computer was virtually unusable.
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Ziggy587 wrote:People can suck it, Vista was fine. Not problematic like the internet made it out to be.
Yes it was, early on and right out of the box. A few patches and changed options later, it's even better than XP.
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The key thing Microsoft is doing here is they're trying to get the same experience across every device you own. They envision you with Windows 8 on your phone, Windows 8 on your tablet, Windows 8 on your computer, and I bet the OS for the next Xbox will be Windows 8-like, if not full Windows 8. That kind of consistency of experience, and that ability to have the same apps across all your devices, is going to be a powerful draw for a lot of people.
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MrPopo wrote:The key thing Microsoft is doing here is they're trying to get the same experience across every device you own. They envision you with Windows 8 on your phone, Windows 8 on your tablet, Windows 8 on your computer, and I bet the OS for the next Xbox will be Windows 8-like, if not full Windows 8. That kind of consistency of experience, and that ability to have the same apps across all your devices, is going to be a powerful draw for a lot of people.
This. The key focus/catchphrase for Windows 8 development is "Without compromises". You caught the idea that with a mobile device, as well as a stationary desktop device, it should be possible to do everything you want on the new OS without the restriction of the device you are using. While it is a very bold statement, as I mentioned before, it is based on how clever the developers are when making their software, as it needs to be touch-centric, while offering the full capablities of a desktop application.
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