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Inazuma wrote:Does anyone else in your family have it?
Yeah, my mum has a more mild varient she has Type 2 EDS, which is much more manageable, but my sister and I have a much more severe cases. My sister is 17 and she has Type 3 EDS which cause much more severe joint degredation than the previous types. I however have a rather unique phenotypical case as I show symptoms of both Type 3 and Type 4 EDS which is the vascular type. Genetically I have Type 4, but how the symptoms present themselves is different in each person.

Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome is a very unpredictable condition as the genes that cause it are prone to mutation which causes contant variations even amongst family. I was the first in my family to be diagnosed as I have the most severe case so far. It tends to become an issue in the teens and early 20's and there are children in the family who are showing early signs. So far however I'm the only recorded case of Type 4 in our family.

Type 5, 6 and 7 EDS are exceedingly rare, and less than 100 cases have ever been discovered. They tend not to survive their first few weeks. Type 1 and 2 are different genetically but are practically identical and mild enough that people can live without ever getting diagnosed. Type 3 effects bones and joins more severely, most people with type 3 will end up in a wheelchair by the time they're middle aged. Type 4 more severely effects blood vessels and internal organs. I've already had tearing in my kidneys and liver, and needed surgery on my chest. Type 4 is usually fatal in your 40s as the organs simply destroy themselves slowly. Type 4 sufferers also have bone and joint issues, but usually less severe than Type 3... I wasn't so lucky and have the fully Type 3 joint problems as well, so expect to be in a wheelchair before the end of the decade.

All in all the condition is still an unknown. Most doctors have never heard of it. I have to tell doctors/nurses/paramedics how to treat me because I know more about the condition than them. It's still being studied and is often mis-diagnosed as a patient having multiple other conditions such as Osteoporosis, Thyroid Aethema and occationally doctors will simply accuse the patients of being a hypocondriac (that's happened to me). Even now they're still doing research on the condition to find ways to lessen it's effects but this is always going to be an incurable condition, it's instead a matter of finding ways to cope with the condition rather than ways to cure it.
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Hearing your story makes me feel really really sad. It's awful that there is no cure for it. I'm sure your mother wishes she found out that she had it before giving birth to two children.

I don't know what else to say, other than I wish you and your family the best, and I hope medial science improves quickly enough to either cure it somehow or find new ways to make life more enjoyable.
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I gotta be honest and say that I respect and admire your strength. That's gotta be a really hard thing to live with.

I share Inazuma's condolences. I hope things somehow get better for you in the future.
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Inazuma wrote:I'm sure your mother wishes she found out that she had it before giving birth to two children.
I doubt that his mother would have any regrets. No child is ever perfect and a mother/father will still find joy in the child and love him/her. Yes, a mother might be sad or exasperated at times due to a condition. Tornado has brought his own unique perspective on gaming to these forums so I'm thankful for his contributions.
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AppleQueso wrote:I gotta be honest and say that I respect and admire your strength. That's gotta be a really hard thing to live with.

I share Inazuma's condolences. I hope things somehow get better for you in the future.
To be honest it's just good to talk about it. It's easier to come to terms with it the more I talk about it so it helps, and I'm sure others will find it useful to talk about any issues they have so yeah.

Really I'd be happy just to know people are aware of the condition and prepared to consider it. Like developers who are prepared to put button mapping as an option, or allow you to switch of real time active battles in RPGs. That kind of thing... also it's nice to know when I'm in debates on some sites that people understand my opinions and reasoning. (and my occational bad tempers, I have a tendency to take things out on people when they don't deserve it or get angry very quickly... I get frustrated from chronic pain on a regular basis).
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gtmtnbiker wrote:
Inazuma wrote:I'm sure your mother wishes she found out that she had it before giving birth to two children.
I doubt that his mother would have any regrets. No child is ever perfect and a mother/father will still find joy in the child and love him/her. Yes, a mother might be sad or exasperated at times due to a condition. Tornado has brought his own unique perspective on gaming to these forums so I'm thankful for his contributions.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that his mother doesn't love her children. I'm just saying that had she known about this ahead of time, she would not have had children. It probably bothers her very much to see her beloved children having to deal with such a major thing like this. Needless to say, she would have preferred to have healthy and happy children who live normal, full lives. In other words, I am saying that she is a good person.

Hopefully I explained that good enough. If anyone gets the wrong idea from reading my posts here, please think that it is from my inability to articulate my point correctly, not because I'm being an asshole. I have said things on this forum that may sound extremely anti-children but when it comes to children, I honestly want what is best for them and I think they are more important than anything else. That is exactly why it bothers me to see children suffering with genetic diseases like this.
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Inazuma wrote:
gtmtnbiker wrote:
Inazuma wrote:I'm sure your mother wishes she found out that she had it before giving birth to two children.
I doubt that his mother would have any regrets. No child is ever perfect and a mother/father will still find joy in the child and love him/her. Yes, a mother might be sad or exasperated at times due to a condition. Tornado has brought his own unique perspective on gaming to these forums so I'm thankful for his contributions.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that his mother doesn't love her children. I'm just saying that had she known about this ahead of time, she would not have had children. It probably bothers her very much to see her beloved children having to deal with such a major thing like this. Needless to say, she would have preferred to have healthy and happy children who live normal, full lives. In other words, I am saying that she is a good person.

Hopefully I explained that good enough. If anyone gets the wrong idea from reading my posts here, please think that it is from my inability to articulate my point correctly, not because I'm being an asshole. I have said things on this forum that may sound extremely anti-children but when it comes to children, I honestly want what is best for them and I think they are more important than anything else. That is exactly why it bothers me to see children suffering with genetic diseases like this.
While I understand your point, effectively what you're implying is that if known in advance someones life, more specifically my life, isn't worth living and it would be better all round if I wasn't born. I realise this isn't what you meant, don't worry, I'm not offended. I know the line of thought your following, that in that situation it would be too painful for you to see your children suffering like that so you'd rather not have them.

I will pass this on to my children, this won't stop me having children. Yes, they will suffer, they will be in pain and they will probably die from this condition. But everyone has pain and everyone dies, the bit in the middle is called life and you know what, if living with chronic pain is something you've had to do your whole life, you learn to see past it. I enjoy my life every day, sure I have pain and I have problems but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy my life and it won't stop my children doing the same, especially as I already know they'll have this condition so they'll have specialists at hand from birth.

Currently I'm single, it's my fond hope that I'll have children in the next few years and I'm hoping to find that special someone, it hasn't happened to me yet. It's a constant fear for me that if I have children they'll lose a parent early and that they'll have a hard life, but a hard life is better than no life. Most parents say "So long as it's healthy I don't care what baby we have", I can't say that, instead I'll settle for "So long as we can make it happy, nothing else matters", and I honestly mean that.
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I think that I have actually heard of that particular disorder before, but I've never had a name to place with it. That definitely is a unique set of constraints you have to consider before purchasing a game.

Have you tried any games on an iPad or Android tablet? I don't actually own one, but I've played a few games on some friend's tablets and I was really impressed. Since it is all touch based (at least on the iPad, some Androids have keyboards) all you do is tap. Because of the small scale you often don't have to move your hand around too much. Also, because they are designed to be mobile, almost every game has the option of being paused immediately in case something important comes up, such as your hands cramping for a while. The large size of the tablets mean that they don't incorporate motion controls like a cell phone game would, so you don't have to swing it around.

Console games would be tricky though. The only ones that I can think of off the top of my head are RPGs, and you seem to already have found a lot of those that work for you.
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wootcube wrote: Console games would be tricky though. The only ones that I can think of off the top of my head are RPGs, and you seem to already have found a lot of those that work for you.
There's also turn based strategy games like advance wars, but I'm sure he's long since figured out what type of games work for him and which don't. It's interesting to hear what people have to consider to play games that the average person wouldn't even think of.

Didn't we have a thread looking for games which could be played by someone with only one hand at one point aswell? That was really interesting.
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I've not tried things like the iPad but I have tried an Android phone. I honestly found that my fingers where simple two big and I couldn't manage the accuracy to play most games, and anything that uses an accelerometer is out anyway as I can't continuously bend my wrists.

I'm actually a lot better off with console gaming. The Sega Saturn controller is my favourite, I like the original Xbox controller (oh and in both cases I mean the bigger of the two as it gives me more plastic to hold, the smaller the controller the tighter I need to grip) and to a lesser extent the Playstation Dual Shock, Xbox 360 and Wii Classic Controller Pro are all very nice controllers but they're a little too small for me. I find the Saturn 3D controller quite pleasant too. I can't use arcade sticks at all, and small controllers are out of the question (without the NES Dogbone controller I physically couldn't play the NES as gripping that controller for longer than about 30 seconds is extremely painful).

For me the issue with controllers isn't lack of movement, currently, this will change over time. I still have full movement in my hands, enough that I can play Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry 3 and finish them. My reaction times are good and my hands are extremely flexable. The problem is pain and potensial damage. I need my games to require a minimum of movement, if I can control the game with milimeters of movement it means I can play it longer. This is why I look for things other people hate. I like fixed camera games and isometric games rather than 3D, after all, 3D means constantly moving my right thumb between the right analogue stick and the buttons. I prefer games that either use the left analogue stick or the d-pad, but not both. I can understand why the d-pad makes for a handy "item bar" or "gun select" area, but I'd much rather use the shoulder buttons to toggle through as moving my left thumb back and forward is harder. Now, it's not that I can't make these movements, just that if I play games where I'm moving my knuckles a lot, I'm basically limited to about 15mins of gameplay before my hands will seize up. Something like Final Fantasy 7 though, which requires much less button pressing than most games, I can play comfortably for hours.

Real time strategy is outright impossible for me as I can't react with keyboard and mouse anywhere near fast enough, as is any game that uses WSAD controls. If a game isn't controller enabled on Steam, I don't buy it. I do love PC turn based games though and contruction games. Things like the Heroes Of Might & Magic series and the RollerCoaster Tycoon series are personal favourites.
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