Mega Man X series post MMX3- Are they worth playing?

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Gamerforlife, I'm glad I'm not the only one who probably takes the X series too seriously. :lol:

The hints at the end of X5 are what piss me off the most though, with Dr. Wily (or Protoman it kind of felt like to an extent) speaking to Sigma at the end there apparently... that went nowhere when it could have been insane.

Then of course X6 just really dumped it all off a cliff. X7 I haven't played, and I'm scared too so I might not ever touch it, and X8 I seriously can't remember anything about other than A) Vile came back which was awesome, and B) Sigma wasn't the final boss, which as cliche' as it is to say, I thought was lame (although the final battle pissed me off the most with those damn pits).
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Xeogred wrote: The hints at the end of X5 are what piss me off the most though, with Dr. Wily (or Protoman it kind of felt like to an extent) speaking to Sigma at the end there apparently... that went nowhere when it could have been insane.
It definitely couldn't have been Protoman. Even if the Classic Megaman series and the X series occur within the same timeline (which I do not think is the case) Protoman is already slowly dying during the events of the Classic series due to his power plant being defective.

I've always felt that the lack of ANY mention of the events of Class Megaman has implied that Megaman X is more of an alternate version of the original story, a version where Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were a little more hardcore in their ambitions.
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Flake wrote:
It definitely couldn't have been Protoman. Even if the Classic Megaman series and the X series occur within the same timeline (which I do not think is the case) Protoman is already slowly dying during the events of the Classic series due to his power plant being defective.

I've always felt that the lack of ANY mention of the events of Class Megaman has implied that Megaman X is more of an alternate version of the original story, a version where Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were a little more hardcore in their ambitions.
No no no no no.... X is the continuation of the series. The entire Megaman series is the same universe. The games tell a gigantic overarching story.

It's:

Megaman -> Megaman X -> Megaman Zero -> Megaman ZX -> Megaman Legends


But Capcom killed the last 2 series before they finished their story arcs, and Kenji left Capcom anyway, so I don't think we'll ever see the end of that story :(
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ZeroAX wrote: No no no no no.... X is the continuation of the series. The entire Megaman series is the same universe. The games tell a gigantic overarching story.

It's:

Megaman -> Megaman X -> Megaman Zero -> Megaman ZX -> Megaman Legends
I'm aware of this. I just don't see it being the case. While there is tangible in-game evidence for Megaman X and up to be connected (Megaman Legends is practically dripping with Megaman X and Megaman Zero references) the events, characters, and setting of Megaman is never referenced so much as even hinted at in any of the sequel series. Aside from Dr. Light and the allusion to Dr. Wily, Megaman, Roll, Auto, Rush, Eddie, Protoman, Bass, etc are never discussed - and you think someone would stop and go 'holy shit a blue robot fighting 8 other robots for the sake of mankind! Not again!'

The only time the two series have ever seen any cross over has been in the Ruby Spears cartoon (definitely not canon) and Rockman the Power Fighters in Bass' ending where a prototype Zero is shown - but the Power Fighters is about as canon as the Megaman Soccer, which is to say not very much so.

So once a mainline Megaman game comes out where people are like 'hey dude, do you remember Monsteropolis and that Blue robot who did all that shit and then a hundred years it happened again?' then I'll believe the Classic Series and X series are two separate entities - but for now it makes more sense looking at the plot that the X series is just a retelling of the classic series with a much darker tone.
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But Zero being Dr Willy's last creation and him destroying the original Megaman I thought was supposed to be a big part of the story. Or did I get that wrong?

And yeah, the only directly referenced sequel timeline, is the X and the Zero series.

Really the legends games have references to the X and Zero series? I really need to do a good Megaman marathon. X - Zero - Legends series. Maybe even play Megaman 8
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That's heavily implied about Zero, like some of us are saying above it would've been great if they went that direction, but yeah. That said I think it's kind of cool to fit the two series together a bit, but like Flake is saying I really don't think much about it at all. I don't know if X and Mega Man are the same person technically or really worry about it much at all. Just an alternate universe kind of thing with some minor connections.

To be honest I'd personally not want to see the main line and X series officially tied together or connected with some crossover, it'd just be too weird. But it's cool to come up with some theories on stuff.
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Flake wrote:Aside from Dr. Light and the allusion to Dr. Wily, Megaman, Roll, Auto, Rush, Eddie, Protoman, Bass, etc are never discussed - and you think someone would stop and go 'holy shit a blue robot fighting 8 other robots for the sake of mankind! Not again!'
Auto does show up in the CD versions of X3. Protoman's shield is also a hidden artifact in Mega Man Legends. Also, I'm pretty sure there was a canon reference book on the series in Japan that established the Classic --> X chronology as valid.
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Speaking as a very casual fan of the series, all I really want to know is just what happened to the original Megaman. Not that we'll ever find out. :roll:

I know the popular fan theory is that Zero killed him, but I hope that isn't the case.
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CFFJR wrote: I know the popular fan theory is that Zero killed him, but I hope that isn't the case.
His chances of survival..... 8) ....were Zero.

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The other popular fan theorey was that the original Mega Man was decomissioned after finally killing Dr. Wily, which fans concluded based on the ending of Mega Man 7.

The fact that the events that might bridge the two stories is absent is intentional. I recall a Keiji Inafune interview where he stated that he didn't want to establish those events so that the door would always be open to more games in the classic series. Once they write those events into the games, it becomes all too easy for any new game in the older series to screw up the storyline and require messy an implausible retcons to get the sequel series in line with it again--just look at what happened after X5. It's understandable that the deliberate uncertainty is frustrating to us as fans, but I think it was the right choice.
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