I'm thinking of getting a PC

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inb4 Mac guys.....
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BoringSupreez wrote: An affordable way to get a gaming PC is to buy a Compaq or HP desktop for $400-$500, then plop a $100 video card into the tower. That's what I did, although it was so long ago my machine is quite outdated.
the problem with this is, most pre-built PSU's suck a huge donkey.... and once you get this sweet new video card (although $100 is pretty cheap, youll probably be alright actually) you might find out the PSU is too weak, and then youll want to replace the PSU, and then after that youll want to get more RAM, but then you find out your stupid pos pre-built mobo has like 2 ram slots (sure you can get x2 4gig sticks for 8gigs) then once you have all this ram and your sweet new video card, you realize your cpu may be bottlenecking you, and by this time you could of just built your own for cheaper with lots of room for upgrading later (you know since prebuilt cases are usually small).............
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Hazerd wrote:inb4 Mac guys.....
what does "can become a Mac" mean?
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noiseredux wrote:
Hazerd wrote:inb4 Mac guys.....
what does "can become a Mac" mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackintosh
Hackintosh is a term used in the Apple Macintosh user community to mean different things throughout that platform's lifespan, but now generally referring to the use of Mac OSX on non-Apple hardware
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Hazerd wrote:
noiseredux wrote:what does "can become a Mac" mean?
Hackintosh is a term used in the Apple Macintosh user community to mean different things throughout that platform's lifespan, but now generally referring to the use of Mac OSX on non-Apple hardware
Actually, that was true back when Apple has their own (IBM-Motorolla created) hardware and did not use anything resembling the Intel x86 chipset. If you format the drive, you could install DOS to run on Mac hardware. You could not format a PC and try to get MacOS running on it.

However, since both sides now use Intel's processor, there is very little difference between the two, hardware-wise. You pay more for your Apple because you want Apple support (instead of Dell/HP/et al).
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Hmmmm. I really have no idea what route I should go now. I have not built a computer in a long time. I don't really want to buy a piece of junk and add on to it. I'm not looking for any type of "Ailenware" performance. I just want a computer that can run games at a high resolution without over heating or causing the game to lag. With all the suggestions thrown around it seems better to just build my own. Now I am thinking I could save enough money for an 800 dollar computer. So with that budget what would be the best components I could get to build a gaming computer. I apologize If my questions are too noobish.
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ChooChooBot wrote:Hmmmm. I really have no idea what route I should go now... I'm not looking for any type of "Ailenware" performance. I just want a computer that can run games at a high resolution without over heating or causing the game to lag... I apologize If my questions are too noobish.
They're not. The worst part about building a PC is after the deal hunting, finding out if your parts are compatible (video card, motherboard, optical drives) with each other. (This can take a few extra days after waiting for all the parts to arrive.)

Can you upgrade your current machine with a more modern video card, more RAM, and heat sinks (for the processor, RAM and fans for the PCIe/AGPx card)?
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pakopako wrote: Can you upgrade your current machine with a more modern video card, more RAM, and heat sinks (for the processor, RAM and fans for the PCIe/AGPx card)?
Man I threw out my old towers awhile ago. Those were as old as windows 95. The only PC I have in the house are my two old dell latitude laptops. They run all my old retro games from the day ok but no where near todays standards. I guess the real problem I face is finding a good upgradeable motherboard. Last PC I built was when XP was first launched, and it was basically a bunch of hand me down parts from my cousin.
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pakopako wrote: They're not. The worst part about building a PC is after the deal hunting, finding out if your parts are compatible (video card, motherboard, optical drives) with each other. (This can take a few extra days after waiting for all the parts to arrive.)

Can you upgrade your current machine with a more modern video card, more RAM, and heat sinks (for the processor, RAM and fans for the PCIe/AGPx card)?
why.... would you buy parts not knowing if they work together.... i mean oh my god.

also you dont need to deal hunt, just goto www.newegg.com and order all your parts in one place, and make sure the parts work together before you buy them, you know like matching your cpu's socket to the motherboard, making sure you have the correct ram...
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pakopako wrote: Actually, that was true back when Apple has their own (IBM-Motorolla created) hardware and did not use anything resembling the Intel x86 chipset. If you format the drive, you could install DOS to run on Mac hardware. You could not format a PC and try to get MacOS running on it.
It wasn't true then. They sold add-in boards that were a PC on a card to allow for that, or you could run a PC emulator.

Even more recently the main difference hardware-wise is that Macs didn't use the standard PC BIOS. They swapped to Open Firmware on PPC, then EFI when they moved to Intel. However, limits on the BIOS are (finally) seeing PCs shifting to UEFI en masse, so it might get even easier to make a Hackintosh.
Man I threw out my old towers awhile ago. Those were as old as windows 95.
It's just as well, you would barely be able to reuse any of it. Even reusing an old case wouldn't necessarily be a great idea as modern CPUs/GPUs pull quite a bit more power than the stuff you would have had back then. Warrants better airflow, which many older cases didn't have.
why.... would you buy parts not knowing if they work together.... i mean oh my god.
Every so often you run into issues...usually with RAM. Though not often if you buy good brands, since usually those are tested.
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