avrame wrote:
Last gen Macbook Pro:
verdict: overpriced, low end GPU, does not run majority of steam games without having to repurchase games I already own, boot camp is not 'good enough'
Just out of curiousity, why is bootcamp not 'good enough'? It just makes it easy to dual boot your Mac (PC) into Windows. I can understand the GPU and price point however. Though the whole draw of a Mac isn't the specs but the OS, so why anybody would consider one for gaming in the first place is beyond me.
Edit: Either way, I still feel it's stupid to seriously game on a laptop, especially when you pay out the ass for the performance of a $700-900 desktop machine.
I'll be honest, I bought a MBP for a while and ended up returning it a week later. Using bootcamp, the fan is limited to running at a very low rate. This was a known issue when I bought the MBP a year ago, and to put it simply, the GPU overheated while I was playing TF2.
There was a knownwork around which required you to boot to OSX, run a fan application, then reboot to boot camp. It worked, but at that point, buying a $1500+ laptop and having to do something that hacky, not my thing. The way I explained it to the Geek Squad when I returned it:
Would you buy a Ferrari knowing that you'd have to jiggle the keys to get it to start?
If you aren't having a good time, why are you playing?
avrame wrote:
Last gen Macbook Pro:
verdict: overpriced, low end GPU, does not run majority of steam games without having to repurchase games I already own, boot camp is not 'good enough'
Just out of curiousity, why is bootcamp not 'good enough'? It just makes it easy to dual boot your Mac (PC) into Windows. I can understand the GPU and price point however. Though the whole draw of a Mac isn't the specs but the OS, so why anybody would consider one for gaming in the first place is beyond me.
Edit: Either way, I still feel it's stupid to seriously game on a laptop, especially when you pay out the ass for the performance of a $700-900 desktop machine.
I'll be honest, I bought a MBP for a while and ended up returning it a week later. Using bootcamp, the fan is limited to running at a very low rate. This was a known issue when I bought the MBP a year ago, and to put it simply, the GPU overheated while I was playing TF2.
There was a knownwork around which required you to boot to OSX, run a fan application, then reboot to boot camp. It worked, but at that point, buying a $1500+ laptop and having to do something that hacky, not my thing. The way I explained it to the Geek Squad when I returned it:
Would you buy a Ferrari knowing that you'd have to jiggle the keys to get it to start?
Strange, I haven't had that problem with the two 13" MBPs I've owned. I agree that's pretty annoying, I sure wouldn't put up with that either.
Strange, I haven't had that problem with the two 13" MBPs I've owned. I agree that's pretty annoying, I sure wouldn't put up with that either.
Glad you see it that way. Geek Squad guys argued with me, saying that I can't return it for it not being able to do something it wasn't designed for. Continued arguing until he said "I don't see why you'd want to use Windows 7 anyway. Just use OSX, it does everything better". When I asked to see his manager, his quickly processed the return.
EDIT: <side rant> I hate when retail employees are biased. I had a Verizon employee trying to push a Blackberry Torch on me saying "Android is just a shakey OS held together with a million 'throwaway' apps". A Bestbuy employee told me with a straight face that if I don't buy Monster HDMI cables, I'm doing my TV an 'injustice'. Then a Gamestop employee scoffed when I bought Black Ops on 360, claiming that 'everyone I know plays it on PS3'.
If you aren't having a good time, why are you playing?
avrame wrote:EDIT: <side rant> I hate when retail employees are biased. I had a Verizon employee trying to push a Blackberry Torch on me saying "Android is just a shakey OS held together with a million 'throwaway' apps". A Bestbuy employee told me with a straight face that if I don't buy Monster HDMI cables, I'm doing my TV an 'injustice'. Then a Gamestop employee scoffed when I bought Black Ops on 360, claiming that 'everyone I know plays it on PS3'.
Side Rant 2 = way off topic
I know what you mean. My brother in law has a HUUGE 1080p TV. I could not pull 1080p out of the Cox Cable box even on a reset reboot option, only 720p or 1080i. A phone call to the service confirmed that Cox Cable does not have a 1080p option, the "tech" kept claiming 1080i (Interlace not Progressive) looked just as good. In reality maybe 1080p would overburden the older cable system. My older neighborhood location would have pauses when I set the box to 720p. I use 480p on my cable box to allow quick channel changes.
I've used a dv7 for quite sometime and although it has the power, it really suffers from a heating problem. If I were in the market for another laptop I would look into Lenovo and not HP.
itsmattxp wrote:I've used a dv7 for quite sometime and although it has the power, it really suffers from a heating problem. If I were in the market for another laptop I would look into Lenovo and not HP.
Thank you; I'm glad I'm not the only person who had that problem. That thing felt like a furnace and sounded like a wind tunnel before I got it cleaned out.
itsmattxp wrote:I've used a dv7 for quite sometime and although it has the power, it really suffers from a heating problem. If I were in the market for another laptop I would look into Lenovo and not HP.
Thank you; I'm glad I'm not the only person who had that problem. That thing felt like a furnace and sounded like a wind tunnel before I got it cleaned out.
I had one too, same issues. Stick to Lenovo, Asus or MSI. Besides, it's easier to repair them.
itsmattxp wrote:I've used a dv7 for quite sometime and although it has the power, it really suffers from a heating problem. If I were in the market for another laptop I would look into Lenovo and not HP.
Thank you; I'm glad I'm not the only person who had that problem. That thing felt like a furnace and sounded like a wind tunnel before I got it cleaned out.
I had one too, same issues. Stick to Lenovo, Asus or MSI. Besides, it's easier to repair them.
lisalover1 wrote:Which would you recommend between Asus and MSI?
Asus or MSI is great, I've only repaired 1. In comparison I've repaired over 20 HP laptops, 23 Dell laptops and 9 Mac's.
I'm not sure thats representative of quality however, as I have actually never seen anybody with an MSI or Asus, and I'm pretty sure they're 2 of the smallest PC vendors.
