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Mozgus wrote:
cloudrat7 wrote:seriously, there's is a driver on vista that doesn't allow windows xp to register any hardrives. there is a solution to solve this problem. if you havent figured it out yet just pm me and i'll help you out.
Say what? The situation here is most likely that his laptop hard drive is recognized as a SATA drive, which XP discs can never detect. The solution is to just insert the SATA drivers into the XP disc, as a floppy drive is not available.

What are you talking about?
yes, you can just insert sata drivers into an xp image and burn it. That's the way i did it. another problem is that if your comp has vista installed and your going to downgrade to xp you may run into a problem regarding drivers for your sound, modem and anything else that requires one. i've done this to 2 laptops and 1 desktop and i always had to go to the manufacturer's website and get the drivers for just about everything, what a pain..lol, but your pc will run so much better with xp, vista is a memory hog.
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cloudrat7 wrote:yes, you can just insert sata drivers into an xp image and burn it. That's the way i did it. another problem is that if your comp has vista installed and your going to downgrade to xp you may run into a problem regarding drivers for your sound, modem and anything else that requires one. i've done this to 2 laptops and 1 desktop and i always had to go to the manufacturer's website and get the drivers for just about everything, what a pain..lol, but your pc will run so much better with xp, vista is a memory hog.
There's always that risk you may not find good XP drivers if the hardware is very new. One odd thing about my laptop on XP is the newest Intel video chipset drivers causes graphics glitches, but a much older set from Acer's site do not.
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i dont have that sata option. vista wouldnt be so bad if it let me use both my video cards but no i can only use 1.
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I just built a new PC and I'm finding myself running into the same problem that Raztat did. Now I've looked and I can have my bios recognize the the SATA drives as IDE ones, but I wondered whether they would be noticeably slower. Can anyone attest to this?
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philipofmacedon wrote:I just built a new PC and I'm finding myself running into the same problem that Raztat did. Now I've looked and I can have my bios recognize the the SATA drives as IDE ones, but I wondered whether they would be noticeably slower. Can anyone attest to this?
I wondered that too, but I really doubt it's noticeable. I don't think most 7200rpm drives even hit the IDE cap, let alone the 4200/5400rpm drives laptops usually have.
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Well it looks like my hands are tied. Amazingly my new motherboard, a Gigabyte EP35-DS3L, doesn't support Sata drives in Sata Mode with windows XP. Instead of offering drivers they tell me that I should just pony up some cash and get Vista. I've been really pleased with the board but it's amazing that neither Microsoft, Intel, nor Gigabyte have developed drivers for this. Good business is bad customer support I suppose.
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philipofmacedon wrote:Well it looks like my hands are tied. Amazingly my new motherboard, a Gigabyte EP35-DS3L, doesn't support Sata drives in Sata Mode with windows XP. Instead of offering drivers they tell me that I should just pony up some cash and get Vista. I've been really pleased with the board but it's amazing that neither Microsoft, Intel, nor Gigabyte have developed drivers for this. Good business is bad customer support I suppose.
Well first I agree, that GigaByte has terrible customer support. They fucked me over in the past, and I'll never buy their products again.

Anyways, I very much doubt you're stuck without SATA drive support in XP. Download the chipset driver pack off their site for your board. I know it says vista only, but you may wanna try just throwing those files on a floppy and seeing if XP accepts any of them during installation. Otherwise go to intel's site and see what you can find for your chipset there. I find it really hard to believe it doesn't support XP.
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philipofmacedon wrote:I just built a new PC and I'm finding myself running into the same problem that Raztat did. Now I've looked and I can have my bios recognize the the SATA drives as IDE ones, but I wondered whether they would be noticeably slower. Can anyone attest to this?
I'm running a 320gb Seagate SATA drive (SATA 1 btw...) and a 250gb Maxtor IDE drive. SATA is set to ATA/IDE compatibility. I just ran a benchmark on both drives, and the Seagate is 2.3x faster than the Maxtor. I'm getting ~ 70mb/s on SATA and ~ 30 on IDE.
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So your Seagate SATA drive in PATA mode is going a lot faster than the Maxtor in native IDE? I don't seriously think PATA mode is a real problem. Just set it in the BIOS and run with it.
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